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Jaguars QB Situation: Russian Roulette

I wrote earlier in the day that Jacksonville Jaguars starting quarterback David Garrard could slam the door shut on the talk of a quarterback competition with a good outing against the Buffalo Bills. Garrard had a rough outing, much worse than his outing against the Atlanta Falcons and left the door wide open again. Fortunately for Garrard, rookie quarterback Blaine Gabbert failed to walk through that door. Blaine Gabbert went three and out on his first drive which included a sack on the first play, an errant throw, then a drop by Armon Binns that would have been short of the first down even if it was caught.

Star-divide

In the first half, Garrard started the game with two 3-and-outs. One ended on Garrard taking a 9 yard sack when he had plenty of time to throw the ball, the other ended on him overthrowing Jason Hill to the sideline. Garrard did wind up with a rushing touchdown after break 3-4 tackles on a scramble. That drive however, was assisted by a 15-yard horse collar penalty and a long questionable pass interference call. Against the Buffalo Bills first team defense, David Garrard completed just 3 of 10 passes for 32 yards. Garrard had a nice drive with less that two minutes on the clock that lead to a field goal, but by then the Buffalo Bills had mostly their second team defense in the game. Garrard started the second half against the Bills second team defense and went down the field, once again assisted by a questionable pass interference call and Brock Bolen punched the ball into the endzone.

As I mentioned, Gabbert came into the game and immediately went 3-and-out. Gabbert's next drive looked much better however, going down the field quickly while connecting on a nice 22-yard pass to Dontrelle Inman and then connecting with runningback DuJuan Harris on an 11-yard touchdown pass. It looked like Gabbert was starting to get in a rhythm offensively, but went 3-and-out again on his next drive. On Gabbert's fourth driver, it ended on a bad interception with him rolling to his right and throwing on the run. I didn't look like anyone was open, and the kid just tried to force a pass in there.

Overall, just like the Falcons game both quarterbacks seemed to fall flat on their face.

So uh... Start Luke McCown?

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Why you wanted Dareus out Alfie. Can we finally try McCown and Gabbert with the first string offense next game?

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!

by DownTownJax on Aug 27, 2011 10:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Gabbert had exactly 0 snaps with the first team offense in the all-important third preseason game.

That’s clearly how you run a real competition, right? Garrard will be the opening day starter, just like the team always said. I guess things really do mean what they mean.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 27, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Saying he’s the starter does not mean or prove a competition did not exist.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 27, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it mean or prove there is a competition?

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 27, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. It doesn’t prove anything either way. Unless the team comes out and says there is or isn’t one, there’s no way to prove it.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 27, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right,

except most things that don’t exist or can’t be proven to exist don’t get brought up in the first place. Just quarterback controversies and religious beliefs, I guess. Coming up next: is there a bogeyman?! I can’t say one way or another, but let’s talk about it!

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 27, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

A quarterback competition is not a quarterback controversy. Seems that is where the confusion/issue is.

No one was saying there was a controversy. There was a competition, however.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 27, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly seemed like there were people trying to stir up one.

Not necessarily you.

But anyway, I’ll just leave it at that. There are more important things to talk about. Like the offensive line, blehhhhh.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Garrard took zero snaps in 2007 with the first team, so there’s that too. But it’s like TOTALLY different. Totally.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 27, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cecil Shorts

could of caught that, but he thought he was being held

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 27, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

scobee missed

Dang

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Is it finally time to draft a QB?

by TheTealDeal on Aug 27, 2011 10:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

lol

fumble, this game will never end.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 27, 2011 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll settle for a tie at this point

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

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Is it finally time to draft a QB?

by TheTealDeal on Aug 27, 2011 10:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i cant beleive how the commentators

are so excited, and the fans are roaring. ITS PRESEASON.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 27, 2011 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

They just sat through a 4 hour game filled with horrible play.

Maybe they’re just cheering that it’s over at all.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 27, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

im pissed

And its a Preseason game too.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

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Is it finally time to draft a QB?

by TheTealDeal on Aug 27, 2011 11:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can’t wait to go to sleep. Bad ending to a screwy game

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Is it finally time to draft a QB?

by TheTealDeal on Aug 27, 2011 11:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Jags....

looked like crap the first half. I am convinced this team is cursed! Garrard looked timid (probably thinking about losing his job) and the defense looked like the defense of two years ago. JDR better update that resume…..looks like he’s gonna need it soon.

by Mike DaMan on Aug 27, 2011 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Garrard's three scoring drives shows me that he is ready for the regular season

Not worried about Gabberts struggles, his scoring drive was very impressive and the interception was a simple rokkie error. My real worry is the Defense. No real pressure all night, Fitzpatrick looked like 2007 Brady, and I can only hope Alualu’s injury is minor.

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by evilboy128 on Aug 28, 2011 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

sorry...misspelled rookie...my bad

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by evilboy128 on Aug 28, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

two of his scoring drives were kept alive by iffy pass interference calls

Ill give him credit that he was able to put points up at the end (and a nice couple broken tackles) but nevertheless the drives looked extremely unimpressive on Garrards part. He simple got helped out by the refs

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by kterr on Aug 28, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

pretty over officiated game overall. bad calls on both ends

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by evilboy128 on Aug 28, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you take away the ones that were "kept alive" by the refs, will you add the ones that were killed by the 3 bad drops?

The way it looked to me, Garrard’s play did not change when the “second team” defense came on the field; however, his receivers all of the sudden were able to catch.

Refs were out of control all night. I think they (refs) need to trim their roster this week as well.

by Conservative on Aug 28, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha. Mike Carey, Commish needs to see you. Bring your rulebook.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 28, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmfao

Byron Leftwich breaks arm.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 28, 2011 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s a pretty shitty thing to laugh at.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 28, 2011 12:26 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

yea i feel bad for him

He wasnt the greatest QB for us, but hell id never wish an injury on him

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Aug 28, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Saw the play happen

He looked like he wanted to throw while he was stepping up into the pocket, then at the last minute he went from just about to throwing the ball to running with it. He was pulled down by the defenders and his arm looked to be dangling as soon as he got up. Very painful, this guy can’t get a break it seems.

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by Jagtastic on Aug 28, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

"this guy can’t get a break it seems"

You might want to choose different words there. ;>)

by Conservative on Aug 28, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pardon the pun

Poor Byron.

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by Jagtastic on Aug 28, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m taking a wild guess that your being sarcastic


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by montanajagsfan on Aug 28, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Garrard and Gabbert both have their problems

Garrard looked great, running the ball. He also was able to complete a lot of short passes. Just watching the game you could see how poorly he throws deep passes, minus the nice pass he had to Hill who dropped it. By this point we know Garrards limitations, he can scramble and throw short passes…thats it. Gabbert on the other hand showed flashes of a possible great QB but also showed why he isnt one yet, inconsistency. Gabbert made a beautiful pass to Inman for 22 yards and looked very confident on the TD drive. Then he comes out right after and throws an awful TD which everyone scratching there heads. There were other times he under threw a few balls. Overall Garrard is consistently average, and Gabbert is wildly inconsistent. Take your pick.

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Aug 28, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

*awful INT

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Aug 28, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

At this point, I’d honestly take Garrard because at least we know what we have in him and won’t have to deal with the inconsistency of a rookie, albeit a talented one.


"Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because This is Just a Ride."
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold or cynical, but I am. So that's how it comes out."
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by montanajagsfan on Aug 28, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying that he’s not inconsistent at times, but at least we know what we get when he starts.


"Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because This is Just a Ride."
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold or cynical, but I am. So that's how it comes out."
-Bill Hicks

by montanajagsfan on Aug 28, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly


"Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because This is Just a Ride."
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold or cynical, but I am. So that's how it comes out."
-Bill Hicks

by montanajagsfan on Aug 28, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pick your poison...

is right. Which QB sucks the least….?

by Mike DaMan on Aug 28, 2011 1:06 AM EDT reply actions  

saw this on reddit LOL

http://i.imgur.com/pea2b.gif

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Aug 28, 2011 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Aug 28, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

If your 7 year old understand what’s that means, you have other problems

by Alfie Crow on Aug 28, 2011 9:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

This, from the same guy who made a big deal about a Guy Whimper slur.

I never said he understood it. He walked up while I was reading and scrolling down. This garbage pops up and he says, “what is that?” That is all. That still doesn’t make it appropriate in any way.

by Conservative on Aug 28, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

with a name like Conservative, one would think you'd take precautions to shield your kid from the internet

When my 5 year old is not playing in her room or outside and is near, I don’t go online.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

One would be wrong.

I didn’t know BCC was a place I had to shield from my family. I am slowly learning, though.

by Conservative on Aug 28, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t you think you’re making a mountain out of a molehill here?

If my daughter was old enough to ask me what it was, I’d just say it was a fan being silly. Is it really that big of a deal?

by Alfie Crow on Aug 28, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you had an army of moles, could they make a mountain?

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by cuffs007 on Aug 28, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't mention the drops huh?

Love the one-sidedness, howcome you don’t mention the 3 drops by the recievers? Garrard didn’t overthrow Jason Hill like you said, the ball went thru Hills hands. Ceicel Shorts and Mercedes Lewis both had drops. Thats not good when 3 out of your 4 top recievers are dropping passes.

by Stephen Wise on Aug 28, 2011 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly

He threw four deep passes I believe. Two resulted in PI and one was perfect, hit Hill right in the hands. If you think not, I think you should pay 9 bucks and watch it again on NFL.com. If your eyes deceive you, just listen to the commentators.

Lewis also dropped what would have been a 1st down; he had 5-6 yards of green in front of him. Shorts dropped a well-designed screen. Gabbert’s drop numbers are inflated/constantly referenced and Garrard’s seem to pass away without notice. He played well. It took the offense some time but the receivers weren’t open and the line was shaky early on.

I don’t know why it has been written that the final drive of the 1st half was against back-ups, because the same personnel that began the game was on the field. They had a three man line and one or two more DBs, but that was in response to the Jags offensive personnel. Williams, Barnett, Florence, McKelvin, Wilson, Byrd, Johnson, Batten all either started or played the majority of the 1st half, and they were out there at the end. I encourage people to verify this as well.

Garrard led three scoring drives, two against starters (or what functioned as starters for this game, when not all of the Bills 1s suited up; then again we can say the same for the Jags). I think he is clearly the better QB. The debate is over for the short term. People are enamored with the idea of a new QB, but the coaches clearly feel more confident in Garrard at this stage.

Gabbert throws a pretty ball though.

by smy on Aug 28, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Woah, woah, woah.

No one wants to mention drops when talking about Gabbert’s poor completion percentage and YPA. You can’t have it both ways.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 28, 2011 9:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I mentioned them. And so have you, and others on this sight and in the media, ad nauseam.

anao one brushed off the drops on Gabbert throws; that is a cop out. We were even having a discussion about HOW MANY drops there were. People were talking about drops that were knocked away (Murphy on the lob) and overthrows.

So get outta here with that. I did not read one thing about a drop in the article, and given what was said about Blaine earlier this preseason, I felt like it was relevant to mention it. Don’t call me biased man. Everything I wrote really happened.

by smy on Aug 28, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess writing that both QBs sucked two weeks in a row is one-sideness now?

by Alfie Crow on Aug 28, 2011 9:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not mentioning the drops that plagued both QB’s and saying that Garrard overthrew Hill doesn’t help the public perception of Garrard any.

by Stephen Wise on Aug 28, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garrard doesn’t help the public perception of Garrard.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 28, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garrard got the Bud light play of the game award

and some other award for playER of the game.

So apparently someone thought he did well.

I wasn’t too impressed. It wasn’t his best game. None of our players were doing anything special though. Garrard was kind of the smartest retard last night

by SexonvilleShaguars on Aug 28, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I want to see is SOMEONE do something positive on offense against first stringers

Would love for it to be Garrard just so we can go in confidently to the opener.

I thought Tennessee would be a cakewalk a couple weeks ago. Now, I have no idea what we’re going to see.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 28, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably a lot of running,

with backs higher than 4th on the depth chart.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 28, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

The big question I have is about their interior line. Karl Klug is a tough guy but he is only 275; Rackley, Meester, and Nwaneri need to control the LOS. Their end rotation is terrifying given the situation at tackle. Jason Jones is a monster no matter where he plays and I don’t know if Britton/Whimper/anyone else can hold him down against the run. Wouldn’t be surprised if he got consistent pressure either.

We are going to have to run the ball well. Monroe, for all his struggles in pass-pro, looks to be approaching dominance in his run-blocking. They have some issues at LB also. All those guys play the pass well, but Ruud is movable at the point. Look for Jones to eat him up.

Then there is the defense…

by smy on Aug 28, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its funny that when you talk about..

How the drops Gabbert had to deal with messed with his play it gets brushed off and you people throw the old cliche “its part of the game” out there but if it happens to Garrard, suddenly everyone is being overly critical. But I must say at least you guys are consistent, consistently biased.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Aug 28, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

So long story short

The differences between Garrard and Gabbert pretty much cancel each other out…. I say start the rookie. Since they’re similar, it seems, go with the rookie. He can win us just as many games as Garrard

by Bryqan on Aug 28, 2011 3:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty bad performance from our starters

How much of this poor showing can we attribute to the absence of the real starters? Not much probably.

The Bills whooped us. The Bills.

I sure hope we have a better team around Gabbert in a few years. He looked good for what its worth, being put against 2nd and 3rd team players.

In Gene We Trust

by SexonvilleShaguars on Aug 28, 2011 4:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, and DuJuan Harris..

man, that guy is a fighter. He was going against the backups, but he’s got some real promise. He’s got a nice burst, he knows how to follow his blockers and find holes, and best of all he can catch well, which makes him a very versatile tool in our backfield.

Practice Squad at the very LEAST for him please.

by SexonvilleShaguars on Aug 28, 2011 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was at a wedding

and didn’t get to follow the game at all..

This is not what I wanted to read this morning. Sounds like neither QB played well. The line continued to play poorly and the WR’s had some drops.

Not good.

Come on Jaguars. Make this your year!

by pksiv on Aug 28, 2011 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Not in Atlanta

It’s on NFL Network tomorrow at 4pm. I have the DVR set.

Not good that the first team couldn’t get a rhythm going… and definitely not good that Gabbert couldn’t do anything against backups… last thing I wanted was a QB issue because neither guy was playing well.

Come on Jaguars. Make this your year!

by pksiv on Aug 28, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was all around ugly.

No idea how we scored 32 points. 2 PIs will do that for you I suppose. All that game showed me is we have a damned good practice squad.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 28, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, it did?

It showed me we have depth issues across the board.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 28, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Showed me something

Showed me that Tyson and Mincey are essential to our success against the run. Throw Kampman in there too, but Mincey is a good run defender and I don’t think there is much dropoff in that department between the two. The combination of Douzable, Lane, and Roth yielded non pass rush and a lack of punch at the point; our linebackers were getting eaten up by the Bills’ linemen, and that was because only Knighton was providing any consistent results. And he got too far upfield on a couple of plays.

Posluszny is not great at shedding guards, and while Smith made some plays, he was delayed over the top/walled off on several occasions by interior linemen. The only guy who was consistently on point in run defense was Greene. Cox got his hands dirty a couple of times; he is getting better and is very physical, although Johnson beat him clean twice.

Bosworth is solid in coverage, has good range and tackles well. He looks like a good nickel linebacker, though he lacks the power to start and play well consistently. Like a less gifted Wesley Woodyard.

I saw Landry take a bad angle to the ball on the TD, but he seems solid on the back end, and made a nice recovery to knock down a pass. He also isn’t consistently late in coverage and rarely misses tackles. He isn’t a prototype, but he is the steadiest option we have had at that position since Deon Grant.

Terrence Wheatley looks like our 3rd best corner to me. Even on the deep pass he gave up in the first game, he had good position. Kevin Rutland and Estrada played like they want to make the team in the second half.

Finally, although he got pushed around a couple of times, Will Rackley did a decent job of stalemating Kyle Williams at the line. I know he didn’t get great movement, but Williams is a fantastic player and is one of the stoutest 300-pounders at the POA. Rackley’s performance gives me great hope for his future, especially once he learns how to condition his body at an NFL level.

by smy on Aug 28, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be clear on that last point

I did see him get tossed aside on at least one occasion, so I just mean to say his overall performance was encouraging.

by smy on Aug 28, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Greene was very impressive in his tackling (ironically, more than Landry).
Also, Issac was very good in that one open field tackle he had. It would have been very easy to have been juked on that one.
I was thinking the same about Wheatley. I think he could hold up if something happened to Mathis or Cox.

by Conservative on Aug 28, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

I have to admit, I didn’t know how good Gene Smith would be at finding guys who could play.

Would you agree that Bosworth is our 4th best LB right now?

I think he is a superior player to Russel Allen, even though he isn’t as physically gifted.

by smy on Aug 28, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's looking good

Hart did alright til he got dinged up. Lane has just dropped off the face of the Earth. That is a huge concern IMO.

He was an absolute beast early in camp but I’m now convinced it’s because he was going opposite Britton.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 28, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah… Lane getting dominated has me very worried about Britton, moreso than Lane

by SexonvilleShaguars on Aug 28, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well you're nothing without a solid back

I think he’ll be fine, I mean I hope he’ll be fine. Lane is a physical specimen who needs to step it up.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 28, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.. we can only hope

that this cast of young guys will be good in 2-3 years.

I read that 80 of our 90 players (before the first cuts) were in their first or second year.

I think we might have 5 people over the age of 26 now?

These guys can all get better with time

by SexonvilleShaguars on Aug 28, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

hasnt that been what the jags front office has been saying for the last 2 years…give these young guys time to develop. its like groundhog day every year lately with the jags. same mediocre play from just about everyone. owner, coach and gm all saying the samethings…then at the end of the season we miss the playoffs and end up .500 right now we appear headed in that same direction for another year or two. stop the madness! lol

by chrisltr22c on Aug 28, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup..

:(

Preseason is only telling us that we have another .500 year to look forward to..

by SexonvilleShaguars on Aug 28, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly.

They have over achieved the last 2 years and it caught up with them in the end.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Aug 28, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

call it what you want, but if it is a case of overachieving then we are in more trouble than years past.

by chrisltr22c on Aug 28, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was impressed with garrard

Especially in the endzone. The deep balls: 1 was catchable and dropped, 2 were pass interference, 1 was overthrown. Some bad checkdowns but had some good throws.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Is it finally time to draft a QB?

by TheTealDeal on Aug 28, 2011 9:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They can be extremely frustrating, but when our QB tries to force passes it rarely goes well.

by smy on Aug 28, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not around these parts.

Throwing it out of bounds is noble. Checking it down is blasphemy. And, if we actually get YAC on a check down, they must be removed from the total passing yardage from the game.

by Conservative on Aug 28, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on now!

Is it too much as a fan to not gasp every time Garrard puts the ball in the air to a receiver? In fairness, they both stunk yesterday, but the receivers did not help them much.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 28, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on now!

Is it too much as a fan to not gasp every time Garrard puts the ball in the air to a receiver? In fairness, they both stunk yesterday, but the receivers did not help them much.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 28, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any word on Jennings?

Knee sprains always make me cringe.

And saw Leftwich’s injury. Man that’s heartbreaking.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 28, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

The good:
Referees
All the RBs (Harris, Murphy, Young, Owens, and bolen)
Hill
Estrada
Marcedes
Garrard (when he was in the red zone)
Cutera (pick 6)
Hart
Jalil Johnson (endzone int)
Daryl Smith
Inman
Rutland
turk

Any more?

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Is it finally time to draft a QB?

by TheTealDeal on Aug 28, 2011 9:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i did not see the game

but everything i heard was along the lines of the refs actually being terrible

by Jagsrok9008 on Aug 28, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was also

Going to make a bad list with them on it as well but I’m lazy. They made bad calls in our favor and against us

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Is it finally time to draft a QB?

by TheTealDeal on Aug 28, 2011 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Knighton played well

Just wasn’t enough. The rest of the D-Line was worrisome; then again we were without 3 starters.

I like Mincey more than Roth. The latter is solid, but was never a great pass-rusher and Mincey looks like he is driven this year. Minimum they split snaps.

by smy on Aug 28, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

So far i like mincey better than roth

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Is it finally time to draft a QB?

by TheTealDeal on Aug 28, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.jaguars.com/multimedia/?id=4163

Here’s the locker room interviews after the game if anyone’s interested.


"Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because This is Just a Ride."
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold or cynical, but I am. So that's how it comes out."
-Bill Hicks

by montanajagsfan on Aug 28, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

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