Jason Hill thinks Darrelle Revis is overhyped? Alright.
by Alfie Crow on Sep 15, 2011 7:00 PM EDT
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PrintJacksonville Jaguars wide receiver Jason Hill seems to think that New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis may be overhyped, due to the market size of New York. "This is a league full of great players. I think sometimes they get overhyped. I talked to Drew [Coleman], Drew played there. He says it's just the aura of New York," Hill told Tania Ganguli of the Florida Times-Union. Hill added, "They got a big media. That's not the Jacksonville paper, that's the big New York Times paper so they get more pub. That's what it is."
No Jason, that's not what it is. Revis is arguably the best cornerback in the NFL. It's not because he gets more "pub". He creates his pub. I think the Jets making the AFC Championship two years in a row had a lot to do with their "pub" as well. Hill went on to say, "This is a game full of good players making plays. He just made a lot more plays on TV than we've made being here in Jacksonville. He's a good player. We respect him."
..yep. He's just made a lot more plays on TV than you've made in Jacksonville. Typically, making a lot of plays signifies you're a great player. That's how it works. "I think the whole New York is overhyped. Him personally, he's a good player, Pro Bowl player, I'm trying to make it to the Pro Bowl, too. This'll be a good game to put some notches on our belts too," Hill continued.
Fortunately for Revis, it doesn't look like he'll have to deal with Jason Hill all that much. As it stands, Hill has missed two days of practice with a hip injury. Maybe this will wind up like when Troy Williamson said he wanted to fight his former coach, Brad Childress, at midfield... then was inactive for the game.
I'm all for smack talk prior to a game, but I typically prefer the person talking smack to have actually done something in the league first.
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What was he going to say
I am scared and I have no shot at catching a ball so we should just stay home..No he was just saying that he is not going to give up because he was playing agaist Revis and it is a big boy sport and they areall big boys
I agree.
He has to believe what he says. Just hyping himself up.
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by FRANKdubz on Sep 15, 2011 7:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed on all points...
But as a former NYer, it’s so true that the publicity players get in NY is off the hook. If MJD was getting NY publicity (or FreddyT did), he would be the biggest thing in the NFL. Then he wouldn’t be forced to do Winn-Dixie commercials.
Revis is definitely awesome.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
C’mon now… nothing is wrong with Winn-Dixie…. i like the fact he does some local type ads
Sean
Pax Armis Acquiritur
I go to WD sometimes...
but that ain’t the type of endorsement that brings in big coin. He needs something big time…like Rennas Pizza.
Kidding.
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What about Winn-Dixie I enjoyed the movie.
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by Noble_Lance on Sep 15, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
When do you ever say anything positive about the Jaguars? Please cite, because I can’t remember the last time.
Thanks for taking time out of your life...
to ruin ours. I will continue to come and read your nonsense, but it is a terrible waste of time. I can’t believe we are paying top dollar for you to mock everything we love so dearly. Blair72…go to jaguars.com if you want the positive spin on your Jags. BCC is real talk. JHill is not in a place to talk shit about Revis…real talk.
Hey CheapSeat
Who the hell are you? I was just asking a question. I’ve been on this site for about three years, before you had ever even heard of it, so frankly, kiss my ass.
I like real talk. And I was being real when I asked the question.
I agree that Jason Hill is an idiot, but on the flip side, quit trying to be a virtual tough guy, okay? Thanks. I don’t tell you what to post, so please, stfu.
Good to see you posting again.
Wish you did it more.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Sep 16, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I know man, but the problem is that
the website has changed so much. I know you and I talked about it already once, but the website has morphed into a big bag of suck as far as the comments go. The news, updates, stories, all that is good, so I still frequent the site. But I don’t comment as much, because basically, other than a few people I know and respect from the good ole’ days, the rest of everyone else is, well, you know.
Not to mention the venom is a little out of control. I understand why a good number of respected contributors and regulars have left the site for greener pastures. I just wish RCR would notice how the site has morphed. I don’t like it.
But, I digress. I still get my fix of Jaguar news. Hope you’ve been well, my man.
Hope you have been too.
I guess I don’t see myself as having much of a choice, despite everything. It’s lonely up here in Cincinnati, as far as Jaguar things go.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Sep 17, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
ME?
I say many, many positive things about the Jags. Love ’em.
I think we will win Sunday, with or without Hill.
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I think you're blowing his comment way out of proportion
He’s saying that NY teams in general are overhyped… and he’s absolutely right. No where in your first paragraph, where’s he’s actually making his the point, does he even bring up Revis. And when he’s asked about him, he SAYS he’s a Pro Bowl player, SAYS the Jags respect him, and SAYS he’s a good player. The point is that when Revis is making plays, EVERYONE knows about it, giving him this aurora of invincibility. Is it deserved? Absolutely. But think about all the other guys the media talks about in NY that don’t necessarily deserve it. Mark Sanchez? Eli Manning? UM, OVERHYPED. Meanwhile, they didn’t even show the Jags – Titans highlights at halftime on MNF (the only game they didn’t show).
And what is the guy supposed to say when all he hears from the media and fans is that our biggest weakness is our WR core? That we have ZERO chance passing the ball vs. the Jets? “Welp, no one thinks we can beat these guys, might as well not make the trip.”
That being said, the best way to get respect is to earn it. And he might not even be playing in this game, so I agree that you shouldn’t be talking when you haven’t backed it up, but I don’t even think this was meant to be bulletin board material in the first place!
I like what Hill had to say..
He doesnt see Revis as his superior but as his equal, an NFL player. Id rather him say this than say he’s scared and hopes Luke doesnt throw to him. New York is the big apple and everything is bigger including the reach of the media. If Alualu and Pot Roast were in that market they would be ALL OVER ESPN. Hill touched on the respect and skill of Revis as a nod to him not to knock him of his top corner talent which is undeniable for now..Once again making something out of nothing but I love it , BUT, keep it up Alfie, this site seriously cures my numerous cases of boredom throughout the day.
Somebody
Needs to tell the dude you can’t talk shit when you’re not even practicing.
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For real...
I am all about talkin smack – been doing it all week to my friends back in NY. But you cannot talk a good game when you are in the trainers room getting treatment and not practicing!
I hope he plays anyway, then gives an interview after amaking 10 catches and 2 TDs, and starts talking about: “Practice??? You talkin bout practice?, not a game, not a game..but practice?”
The Answer was the man.
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Anyone who disagrees that things from New York are overhyped
hasn’t been paying attention.
I’m obviously not an NFL player, and I’d like someone with access to some to ask them, does this “bulletin board material” really make any difference? Were they not going to try before, but now that they feel “dissed” they’re gonna go out there and show ‘em? Does Revis really care about what a waiver-wire Jags receiver says, (who seemingly may not even play), even though it’s not an affront? I think writers have time to kill and space to fill, and controversy gets hit and readers.
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by unhipcat on Sep 15, 2011 8:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Idk how y'all see this as "smack talk"
He is saying that he looks at Revis as just another player, as he should. You can’t expect to have any success against a guy if you idolize them
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Sep 15, 2011 9:07 PM EDT reply actions
hype !
i agree with jason hill -its about time some of players showed some ba### lets go up there and kick some jet a@ and make a statement
go jags !!
However..
….I do think we can get some matchups if we have Mojo and Deji on the field at the same time in like a 2 back shotgun set.
No, he can't.
He’s shut down Randy Moss, when he was good. He shut down Calvin Johnson. He shut down Andre Johnson. There literally isn’t a receiver who can beat Darrelle Revis. Ted Ginn had one, and that was a fluke if anything. The stats pretty conclusively show that. I think you guys have a good shot at winning this if MJD gets on a roll, but yeah, Revis is just that good. History in the making.
Just tryna make bank, bro.
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Sep 15, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You also forgot Vincent Jackson.
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by Noble_Lance on Sep 15, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Dez Bryant had one catch against him. He was hardly being owned.
Just tryna make bank, bro.
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Sep 16, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
we're talking about Revis not Cromartie
and learn to spell his name right if you are going to insult him.
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My bad. I was talking about which corner Bryant was actually owning, since it wasn’t Revis.
Antionio Cromartie has never been referred to “Cromart” in his entire career, even when he was playing at Florida State, either. Thank you for the correction.
You’re right though, Bryant was owning Cromartie. But yeah, as Noble_Lance said, moufpuncha wanted to discredit Revis but he was mistaken.
Just tryna make bank, bro.
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Sep 16, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
for what it's worth, I'd take Revis here in a New York Minute
pardon the pun
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the total sum of the post...
….was to show you that no human CAN’T be beat. for the dallas game, i thought i remembered dez catching balls over revis. but obviously he didn’t have him the whole game.
if he was owning cromartie, though, then he was covered by both corners. obviously he was covered part of the way by cromartie, but i’m pretty sure they kept replaying a catch against revis.
anyway, you came here and said he couldn’t be beat. obviously he’s human. especially with no safety help against fast receivers or against big, physical receivers.
Jason Hill is right
NY can scare the finesse teams all they want. We can run that rock all down their throats and there isn’t anything their little 3-4 can do about it.
I guess we can call you Alfie Florio or Mike Crow. Come on, you are better than this.
We don’t need a daily “Controversy of the Day” article with playground talk, cheapshot commentarty at the end. I know the David Garrard Albatross is gone and sailed, but is this what we are going to get everyday from you? A random, unwarranted, far-reaching attack on the Jaguar of the day.. So far this week, we have read the article about the old lady with the Skelton? Clint Session is over paid? Jason Hill talking smack on Revis? You are reaching on all of this and this is just drama/TMZ type crap and this site is, should, and used to be better than this type of crap reporting. Maybe a slow news days, but let’s talk football. X’s and O’s. Strategy. Predictions. More analysis. More dialog with other teams. Grading out players. Love the site and it has really made me more of a Jaguar a fan, but this type of article is so PFT-like.
Definitely agree with you Slawsc
Alfie you’re a great writer and I’d much rather read X’s and O’s than this stuff. This article is about as useless as Adam Rank on NFL.com. I agree with you but this definitely doesn’t get me hyped for the game this weekend. To gossipy.
by Pocket Hercules 32 on Sep 16, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Good lord
It’s a REPORT. It’s not an opinion piece; Jason Hill said that stuff. Don’t want to talk about it? Skip the damn post. Wow.
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by CaliforniaJag on Sep 16, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
read the actual quote
No where did “Jason Hill actually say that Revis is overhyped”… Which is the title of this article, which is misleading.
by jlana24 on Sep 16, 2011 7:19 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I hate that you can’t edit posts lol
by jlana24 on Sep 16, 2011 7:20 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Look how many responses
this post has gotten. Well done Alfie.
by JagSoldier on Sep 16, 2011 8:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Spot on!
I think Hill’s opinion is spot on. I don’t see this as talking smack at all. The larger markets get more publicity. Of course they do. That shouldn’t be unexpected.
I don’t think Hill meant any disrespect. What he meant is that Revis gets more publicity because he is in a larger market. It is 100% true. Don’t mistake that for Hill calling Revis overrrated, which is basically the tone that this article takes.
It is the same reason why a player like Daryl Smith conversely doesn’t get nearly the publicity that he deserves. He plays in a small market, but is easily one of the top middle linebackers in the league. Yet, most people outside of Jacksonville don’t know who Smith is.
Smith has started at both middle linebacker and outside linebacker. Again, you absolutely get the point. If not, I can explain it further.
The bottom line is that this article is fishing.
He has started 21 games at middle linebacker. Look it up. Again, that is beside the point. The point I was trying to make is that bigger market players do get more hype. If Smith played for the Jets, many more people would know his name.
The Jets have one of the best ILB in the game in David Harris and most people don’t know who he is.
I don’t need to look it up. Smith started at MLB (2009) for one season. He filled in for Peterson when he was injured for another partial season. Every other season he played OLB.
It’s not beside the point. If you’re going to say he’s an underrated player, get his position right.
What exactly is your problem, dude?
He has played both middle and outside linebacker. That is is a fact. He is also a very underrated player, that is also a fact.
Get off your high-hourse, clown. You don’t need to argue just for the sake of arguing.
And it is 100% besides the point. Bigger markets get more hype. That is common knowledge. It is not theoretical. It is fact. That is what Hill was saying, and that is exactly what I agree with.
Everything else is besdies the point.
Greg Jones is another player in the same boat. Whether you agree with it or not does not make it less valid.
I hate smack talking......
period. I do, however, expect a Jaguar to be very confident that he can win the battle he will face in the next game. He should feel he is better than Revis, and that he can be successful, or not waste his time stepping on the field. Yes, he probably should be handled in a different way verbaly, but he should be confident. Mr. Hill is not the last pro athlete to let his mouth run a bit I promise.
The only thing worse
than a Jag talking smack is an injured, unestablished Jag talking smack about a really good player he likely won’t even face on field. Shut your pie-hole Jason, at least until you make the Pro-Bowl.
A couple of things...
1 – If Pro Bowl is the only criteria for smack talk, then David Garrard left a lot of salvos unlaunched.
2 – I don’t get Hill here. People said MSW was lippy and that’s what got him run out of town (I don’t believe this one bit.) All Hill has done is make a couple of youtube highlights. I want to see about 5 catches a game and the odd TD before he starts bumping his gums.
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That was kind of a red flag to me
He just got paid a few months earlier, though he was technically locked out along with the other Jags, he could have made the trek here to get acclimated. The heat in Jax is only topped by the heat in Houston.
Ain’t rooting against him by any stretch, but I have to see more from him. I mean there is a very real possibility that he could get beat out by Cecil Shorts this year.
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2 = exactly
1 = I didn’t really mean that was the criteria. I simply meant that you rarely hear Jags talking smack, and, personally, I don’t like it because you look so silly when you get bested on the field, see Mike Doss.
Some of you guys need to visit sites like Stampede Blue or MCM.
What Alfie posts is baby sh!t compared to what some of those other guys post.
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Exactly
Those others are just forums for the insane.
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
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I mean I’ve only been reading BCC for a couple days now and I think Alfie does a good job… keep up the good work, IMO.
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