Jack Del Rio mum on the Jaguars starting QB, for now
by Alfie Crow on Sep 19, 2011 2:21 PM EDT
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Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Jack Del Rio met with the media today for his annual Monday press conference. Obviously, he was dominated by questions about the quarterback position. Del Rio opened up his press conference by saying the Jaguars broke down in two areas in the 32-3 loss against the New York Jets, special teams and the passing offense.
"Luke (McCown) struggled yesterday, there's no sugarcoating that.'' Del Rio said during his press conference. Del Rio was non-commital when asked whether Blaine Gabbert or Luke McCown would start on Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. Del Rio said about a possible change at quarterback, "At this point today, we're evaluating tape. If we decide to make a change at any position, we'll let you know when its appropriate." Del Rio continued, "Gabbert will get his shot at some point. It's not something we're going to talk about today."
The fact that Del Rio was dismissive of the situation and yet still made it a point to say that they were still evaluating tape makes me think even more that Blaine Gabbert will be the starting quarterback on Sunday against the Panthers. I would think if the team still planned to go with McCown, they'd have said as much and not left it open.
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I bet he waits until late on Saturday to name a starter
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
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Completely Agree with you Alfie
Its not like watching tape is going to make McCown’s day at the office look any better. Its only going to look worse. He was like a dear in headlights out there. Dude just froze!
Its BG time…….
Me thinks he's going to try to sign a street FA
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Ha ha
For a second, I thought you were referring to favre
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by unhipcat on Sep 19, 2011 3:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was
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I got that... And a 60 yr old Favre is way better than LM......LOL
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
Favre could take this team to the playoffs. Not that either party would make that an option.
no he couldn't
Minnesota last year had so much more talent on paper than we do now.
He could get JDR fired.
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I was serious.. Favre would get us much farther than Luke..
But Playoffs…IDK Maybe.. With protection he is awesome , without he is injured. Period.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Why would JDR tell the Panthers
who’s starting? Why give them all week to prepare? I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a “game time” decision.
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by unhipcat on Sep 19, 2011 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That is a great point......
Maybe what I meant to say was that I bet they know as early as tomorrow, and practice accordingly.
Does it really matter?
Neither of them exactly inspire fear in opposing defenses
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
OK.. Either way it spells AWFUL.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I think both Unhip and I agree with that....
You pick the guy, and you prepare all week with that guy, but do you tell anyone which guy you are preparing with? Do you have to tell anyone who you are preparing with?
I didn't mean they would keep the info from the Jaguars
I don’t know how they’d do that anyway. It would probably be apparent from who practices more with the first team.
I meant keep it from the Panthers as long as possible.
And that shouldn’t be impossible. My understanding is that media are required to leave before the real practice starts.
Section 442, RIP
"You think you know, but you don't know."
If they announce
who’s starting, the panthers look at tape of and prepare for one guy.
If they don’t, the panthers most likely have to prepare for both.
I don’t know if that changes, radically or not, how they game plan or what defenses they put in for sunday, but I think any effort expended getting ready for somethIng that doesn’t occur is something most coaches would try to avoid.
Or, maybe it doesn’t make a difference to Rivera et al, and they simply look at our play selection and prepare for that.
Regardless, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s no official “x will start Sunday” announcement today.
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by unhipcat on Sep 20, 2011 9:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What is the difference in McCown in Gabbert, in regards to how the Panthers would prepare? There’s really no film on either, anyway.
It’s not like it’s Vick or Bledsoe, here.
by Alfie Crow on Sep 20, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.. Teams prepare for DKs 6 plays he calls..
HB dive, HB toss, Quick slant, Quick out, Reverse..
That about covers it.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I know I can't count.. But I couldn't think of anymore plays LOL.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
They very similar QB's
I doubt it would make much of a difference. Not saying that it isn’t a factor. But I don’t think it’s much of one.
This organization has failed miserably when it has come to the Quarterbacks situation.
All they had to do is come out and say that they are rebuilding and that we will play Gabbert and hope to contend for the playoffs in 2012. All that retooling crap is bullshit.
The "new" Jaguars "era"?
I think this was the Jags plan all along. They were just waiting for McCown to have a bad game to give them their “excuse” to start Gabbert. Even though McCown played an awful, horrific game yesterday I think the Jags were expecting it from McCown (maybe not 4 int’s) with his lack of experience. I fully believe the Jags wanted to let Gabbert sit on the bench and “learn until he was ready”. But even though it may not be fair bc of his inexperience, McCown’s horrific game vs. the Jets should make the Organization start the Gabbert era Unless they Honestly feel that he isn’t ready and starting him “too early” will “hurt his development”.
by Jags85 on Sep 19, 2011 2:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not to answer for Jags85.....
but I don;t think they need an excuse. They need to star the guy that gives them the best chance to win. I think they thought that was Luke. I am no longer so sure about that.
Saying when they felt he was ready and wanted to start Gabbert over McCown now they have there “reason” or “excuse” since theyv handled the last QB so wonderfully (joking ofcourse). At this point I dont think it matters. Just start Gabbert and get on with the rookie mistakes that’ll incur
by Jags85 on Sep 19, 2011 3:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*handled the last QB situation so wonderfully
by Jags85 on Sep 19, 2011 3:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I do not see....
the rookie mistakes being much worse that what we watched yesterday. And when I think about it, were the mistakes that McCown made yesterday not rookie mistakes. I know he has been around the league for a while, but without consistent play time, would you ever really work the bugs out?
At this point we should just start Gabbert (as everyone else has said). Lets move on with the future
by Jags85 on Sep 19, 2011 3:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i dont trust them
When it comes to who is going to be the qb. It wouldn’t surprise me if Mccown starts tho I hope Gabbert does
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 19, 2011 2:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Alfie
Del Rio’s statement on a QB has not ever and will never mean anything. You as well as anyone knows his history of being the biggest hypocrite of all head coaches when it comes to choosing a QB. Even if he said Luke is the starting QB against Carolina, It would mean absolutely nothing considering this is Monday and it’s Del Rio.
I couldnt even watch the game live
Let alone again and again for film study. Its simple, Gabbert should play.
P.S. Not to be grammer nazi but I think you mean’t weekly Monday press conference not annual lol
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by Jags85 on Sep 19, 2011 3:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good for stats
The 2 teams we have played are ranked in top ten in Defense. Now do you beleive Tenn and JYJ are top 10. Maybe Jets but playing our offense is good for the other teams defensive stats. Being one dimensional is horrible, Bad preparation of Coaching Staff. Gabbert Era Must Begin.
From
what I’ve “heard” and “read” McCown could make the throws DG couldn’t and Gabbert can make the throws McCown can’t. Even though McCown is a "Vet"and his been in the league hes still “inexperienced”…So is Gabbert! Ergo we should start Gabbert
by Jags85 on Sep 19, 2011 3:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Haven’t you “heard”, its now the “cool” thing to do! I’m jp. Things that other people say and/or just an opinion I put in quotes. I didn’t realize how many things were quoted til I re-read it lol
by Jags85 on Sep 19, 2011 6:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
Nice pic fined lol. If I gained about 100lbs that would look like me…lol so sad
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I guess everyone should
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by Jags85 on Sep 20, 2011 9:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It doesn't matter
Who the starting QB is as long as the coaching staff has not changed. Your still going to get the same poor preparation, conditioning, and questionable play calling. JDR shows no emotion at all, so how will this team ever get fired up?
If professional athletes need a pep talk to get them fired up, they shouldn’t be professional athletes.
This is professional sports, not college football.
I won't buy a ticket because JDR is never full of pep
Did like how they got the “That’s a bullshit call” on CBS yesterday.
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Professional sports, college sports, high school sports......
it does not matter. It is NEVER the coaching staffs responsibility to get you fired up for a game. It is there job to help you prepare with a game plan and be in good condition to compete. If it takes coaches to get you pumped to play, find something else you like to do, because sports is not your thing.
I need my boss to fire me up to do my best at work
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While that is true.. A great coach knows how to fire up his team..
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe not the sideline but yes in the locker room and film room and practice field..
Not a ra ra speech but they believe in that guy.. They want to impress him and not dissapoint like a young kid with his father..
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
That is a ridiculous argument
They are professional football players. They do it for the money.
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
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not redicuous at all...
And the great players do it for the love of the game… Anyone who does it for the money doesn’t last long… The love of the game and their preparation for the game BECAUSE of their love for the game brings them the money.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
What kind of fantasy land are you living in?
If they weren’t prepared, they wouldn’t get paid. Money is the ultimate motivator. Players like Manning and Peterson may love the game, but they sure as hell aren’t playing for free.
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What kind of fantasy are you living in DUDE?
I’m done arguing with you.. You must be a teeny bopper. I thought cell phones were not alllowed at school? Run along..
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That's because you are wrong
You don’t even know me, so don’t be condescending. All you had to do is look at my pic to know what I do for a living, so kiss my ass.
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Hahha... So you hug a chick for a living?
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 21, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind, I guess I expected a little too much from you
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Oh...You must be talking about that tan cacky shirt you have on..I get it.
You work for Parks and Recreation!
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 22, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You are under the mistaken impression that emotion wins games
It does not. Talent does.
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
If you ain't first, you're last.
Emotion coupled with knowledge definitly wins games.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The league is full of talent.....
and you have to have it. The extra energy provided by emotion can take that talent to the next level. Don’t for a minute think that emotion is not important.
Ray LEWIS...NUFF SAID
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats because the Ravens have GREAT PLAYERS
Lewis, Ngata, Reed, etc.
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Yes and most are highly emotional on the field.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Brett Favre after his mom passed away.. and dad.
The man goes nuts on games following close family members passing away.
by SexonvilleShaguars on Sep 20, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
So he had more than one family member pass away?
I’ll give him credit for playing great at Oakland. But my point is that playing with emotion will make a team a lot better. Did it make the Jaguars better after Collier got shot?
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I'm sure we'll draft one soon
We should get a pretty good draft position in 2012
by SexonvilleShaguars on Sep 19, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I just hope some of these fans can be patient with Gabbert! He probably wont put up the numbers Newton has and he will make mistakes, hopefully not 4 int’s mistakes. But even if he does who are some of these fans going to call for next at QB position…Zach Miller lol?
by Jags85 on Sep 19, 2011 3:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
aarrrgh, me hearties
sorry for the delay in letting everyone know, today is international talk like a pirate day.
Section 442, RIP
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I still believe that we should start Luke McCown this next game. It doesn’t make sense to just shatter his confidence level just after one poor performance. In Week 1, he looked efficient because he had a better cast of receivers. Cut the man some slack!
by Tyler Kamarr Pearson on Sep 19, 2011 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
or maybe 5 interceptions
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 19, 2011 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Luke does deserve another chance after one bad outing.
Had to add this too:
Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio said despite a four-interception game from Luke McCown Sunday, he has no "seller’s remorse" over releasing then-starter David Garrard two weeks ago. "It’s not like keeping David was going to be a guarantee that we wouldn’t have substandard quarterback play," Del Rio said
ouch!
The heartbeat of a football team is the quarterback position and I think everyone who has any intelligence about the game understands you must have consistency at that position to be a championship team.
Ron Jaworski
exactly
If the qb can’t throw for 300 consistently, he’s a bum.
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I think they'll keep running with McCown.
I mean, I know some of you were drinking the McCool-aid for a minute there, but no one else really thought McCown would be any good.
I personally never wanted to see McCown in control of our offense. He doesn’t improve our chances to win over Gabbert, and I believe he literally threw the game away against the Jets.
But, they liked him enough to give him a shot. And I don’t think one awful game is enough to consider that shot blown. Next time he plays like that though, he’ll be done.
by SexonvilleShaguars on Sep 19, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
Give me a legitimate reason to not move forward.
by Alfie Crow on Sep 19, 2011 7:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wanted a legitimate reason for them to start McCown in the first place. I never saw one and still don’t.
I just have a feeling they’ll give him another chance.
by SexonvilleShaguars on Sep 20, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
beat him out or was he the best of the worst?
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He beat him out.
Garrard was the worst QB.
I still don’t get why that’s so hard for people (not you) to accept.
I guess the team wanted to send the message to the fanbase that things were alright
if there was ulterior motive on the part of JDR or Smith then it seems they may have sabotaged the first half of the season.
And honestly, McCown did the same thing he did in preseason last year he shined against 2s. Did he get reps vs the first team? Obviously Gabbert did, especially when David was out with the back strain, another one of those things that make you wonder. Remember Brunell and the elbow?
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The team wanted Gabbert to win the job, I think we can all agree they tried to let him win it.
I don’t even think there needs to be an elbow after Sunday.
But he needs to be protected! It's like David Carr all over again!!!
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He beat him out in practice wich doesn't mean much to me..Just my opinion.
You will never convince me Luke is better than McCown…
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Garrard OOPS.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Garrard had his opportunity
Even he admitted he didn’t play that well.
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Doesn't matter now.. That era is over.. Start the BEE GEE!
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Not so fast
Jet fan here, The jets are weak holding TEs and screen passes. Even the Dallas game it was Witten who tore them up with 100 plus yardage. Yeah Dez and Miles had TDs but they both only had three catches apiece. Even Dez 40 plus yard catch, he was lined up against a LB. The jets defense is designed to stop teams #1 and #2 receivers. Teams have counter this by attacking the middle of the Jets defense where they are weaker. While i agree you should start Gabbert, I also feel you guys would had moved the ball more if Mercedes Lewis had played.
Why not start Gabbert against the Panthers? Wouldn’t it be best to give him his first start when they’re playing against a below-average defense?
Based on what? They’re in the bottom third in defensive rankings and their two best linebackers are now out. There’s a reason they’re losing even though their offense isn’t playing poorly. They also suck at stopping the run, which means that MJD can help make it a lot easier on Gabbert.
They lost because
they played the defending super bowl champs and they turned the ball over too many times.(As many times as we did against the Jets)
Isn't it kinda cause for alarm that Carolina is all but neglecting the run?
Gotta unleash it sometime, right?
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The middle of the Panthers defense is soft, especially without Beason and Davis.
It’s an easy game to work Gabbert in with some run heavy offense that they’d be doing anyway. Carolina can rush the passer with Johnson/Hardy, but with their injuries they can’t do much outside of that.
They also have two rookie DTs
If there was a game to start Gabbert for the first time, it would be this week.
We'll all be sorry when Luke starts playing
like all-pro QB, he just need’s some time.
You’ll see…..
Is he getting shipped to the CFL or UFL?
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That will never happen..
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Luke McCown is our starting quarterback
…until he isn’t anymore. Because Del Rio said the position is open for discussion, does that really mean that it’s not and he’s already made his decision? I just can’t seem to trust anything that Del Rio says anymore.
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