2012 NFL Draft: Top 10 draft order set
With the conclusion of the second slate of games today the top of the 2012 NFL Draft is officially set and the Jacksonville Jaguars will select 7th. The order goes as follows:
| # | Team | Record | SoS Record | SoS % |
| 1 | Indianapolis Colts | 2-14 | 138-118 | 0.539 |
| 2 | St. Louis Rams | 2-14 | 151-105 | 0.590 |
| 3 | Minnesota Vikings | 3-13 | 143-113 | 0.559 |
| 4 | Cleveland Browns |
4-12 | 136-120 | 0.531 |
| 5 | Tampa Bay Buccaneers |
4-12 | 141-114 | 0.553 |
| 6 | Washington Redskins | 5-11 | 122-134 | 0.477 |
| 7 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 5-11 | 128-128 | 0.500 |
| 8 | Carolina Panthers | 6-10 | 129-127 | 0.504 |
| 9 | Miami Dolphins | 6-10 | 129-127 | 0.504 |
| 10 | Buffalo Bills | 6-10 | 132-124 | 0.516 |
*Panthers and Dolphins will go to a coin flip to determine who picks 8th.
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In other words, the Redskins were the most pathetic team this year
Okay, somebody in the Big East has made this necessary. "BC" in my nickname references the icon. I AM NOT A BOSTON COLLEGE FAN.
I think it is relatively safe to assume
all the really good players we have been wanting will be gone by the 7th pick. I think the favorite as of this moment for the Jaguars selection is probably Jon Martin or Dre Kirkpatrick
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
If you think all the good players will be gone by 7, think of what teams are thinking at picks 20+
We have a top 10 pick, they will draft someone great, or trade back.
At pick 7 it might not be Claiborne or a specific player you had in mind, but there is great talent at 7. Ie: Adrian Peterson 7th overall.
i disagree
There seems to be a lack of elite talent in this draft. Yes, there are some very good players that can be had in the first round, but there are not a lot of elite players.
I agree about the lack of elite talent.
After Barkley and Te’o went back this is a shallow draft for elite talent. Slipping from 4th to 7th really sux.
elite: Luck, Barkley, Kalil, Claiborne, Richardson. Te’o.
It is however deep in WRs and CBs. I say we take two of each at some stage. Best player available at 7 spot and 39.
What could of happened; did.
Let the top 10 mocks begin!
When does the coin flip take place?
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 1, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions
at the combine
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by montanajagsfan on Jan 1, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I can really see this year being an underwhelming draft for us
Gene will most likely continue his drafting trend, which means most of us will be unenthused with his choices. If he doesn’t hit this year with the higher draft picks, he will be out soon. This is his year to add depth since he has high picks in every round.
Most see claiborne going way before 7.
Lookout for another gene smith special lineman
by UnconqueredJag904 on Jan 1, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions
I agree, time to hit on some picks. I’m not kidding.
I’m tired of mediocre talent picks, some have been alright but still. Especially on offense, I’m tired of the opposing defenses not being threatened what so ever by our roster. I really don’t care, Blackmon, Floyd, Jeffery, Wright. Add a WR who can make a play.
New 2012 season, new coaches, new owner… add some star power!
we have a done of cap space
we are going to get at least one big star WR in FA so don’t worry. Taking a WR in the first would be a bad idea considering how deep this draft is. OL is the way to go to get the best bang for your buck.
we go from
claiborne, kalil, rg3, blackmon
to reiff, martin, richardson, coples, kirkpatrick
sad day…..sad dayyy………….
Cold Blooded
Might be a good reason to trade back… we don’t need Richardson, don’t you think someone picking in the teens wants him? Then we draft Michael Floyd. BOOM!
I just said Richardson because he was in the list of players he mentioned. It’s hypothetical, why wouldn’t any team trade up to 7?
Ingram wasn’t picked 7th overall, last I checked.
New Orleans gave up their 2nd round pick and a future late first round pick. That wasn’t a lot.
Bengals might
They have 2 1sts, and one of them was for a player they weren’t going have anyways. I could see them parting with a 2nd to move up knowing they have another 1st in the bank.
Here's a trade idea
Bengals trade us both of their first rounders (17 and 24ish) for the 7th overall and Mike Thomas
no ones gonna trade up in the top ten for a rb
no matter how good he is. i dont see anybody wanting one of those players enough to trade up
Cold Blooded
The only person I can see people trading up for is Landry Jones
if he impresses at the combine. If that even happens, he will go to Washington or Miami anyways. We are stuck at 7 most likely so start scouting guys like Coples, Maritn, and Reiff. If Blackmon falls to 7 then we could take him, but I am not a fan of a first round WR.
Not coming out I believe
although it would be great us
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 1, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Only because some teams NEED a QB
And I feel like he would impress at the combine. Not to mention there are not a lot of elite prospects in this draft.
I don't see it either
But I didn’t see the Jets trading up for Sanchez, either.
Easily
Production-wise there wasn’t a big difference between him and Bradford. He has the size and arm strength you want in a QB and generally if you want one, you have to go get one so I could see someone talking themselves into trading up to take him, not saying he would be worth it but I can see it happening.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 2, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
but he has struggled in big games
and doesnt have a great arm as far as accuracy and bradfords lack of success in the nfl whether due to poor wr play or oline being terrible will scare alot of teams off. i dont see it happening
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 2, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Here's a cant miss pick: Luke Kuechly
He is an absolute beast, the best LB in the country, by a mile. The only problem is we don’t really need a LB. I would still love Kuechly, but if not him then Riley Reiff from Iowa.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Agreed
but I would honestly only take him if we get lucky in FA and pick up two WRs and a starting caliber OL or DE. It would be a perfect Gee pick and it is not like Poz and Session are always healthy.
Poz didn't miss a game this year
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 1, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
he has had issues in the past though
and no ones knows how bad his injury was today.
Sprained shoulders aren't that serious
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 1, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
they can take up to 8 months to heal though
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by montanajagsfan on Jan 1, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
What I said was he is a sure thing, if he comes out. If we pick him at 7, I'm fine with that.
All I know is, he is a beast who led the nation in tackles 2 years in a row, won the Butkus Award (top LB) and Lombardi Award (Top Lineman/LB), and in 3 seasons has 532 tackles.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
but he wont play?
its the same argument that you could make for trich except luechy is on the side of the ball that doesnt need that much help
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 2, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
you don't think
that Kuechly would beat out Sessions? Sessions is great player, but Kuechly is an elite Linebacker
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That's what I think...
I realize Session is guaranteed money, but if Keuchly were drafted and beat him out, isnt the purpose of the draft to get better? Draft the best players and whoever is the best plays.
I also agree, however, that offense has to be addressed – seriously addressed, in the offseason. Not sure Keuchly will be, or should be, our pick…I’m just saying he’s one of the elite talents available in this draft.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Either way
Sessions wasn’t on the field too much when he was healthy. Our scheme focuses a lot more on the nickel than a standard 4-3 set. I’m all for BAP, but unless we’re looking at a scheme change or a future replacement for Darryl Smith, an OLB really wouldn’t be very valuable to us in the 1st round.
never gonna happen
he would be a backup or start over sessions which would waste that 40 mil he signed for
Cold Blooded
Yeah, I know it's probably not going o happen because we have LBs...
But as a BC fan, I LOVE Keuchly. Have to beat the drum for him.
Also, There is some word around BC that he may return for final year.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Richardson
Would provide star power and give Mojo fresh legs. We need OT, WR,CB but I would take TRich over Reiff, Jeffrey, or Kirk.
SCALP'EM
Jesus is Lord!
by Thunder64 on Jan 1, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we need an offensive playmaker
and hes likely the only top tier one on the board when we draft (im not sold on jeffrey or floyd) so why not?
Cold Blooded
We have Jennings
We aren’t going to draft a guy with the seventh pick of the draft to a position that we have arguably the best RB in the NFL… I don’t want to take carries away from him and we need OL help more. Plus, I don’t think anyone could see Gene taking a RB in the first.
was prepped to take spiller
SCALP'EM
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by Thunder64 on Jan 1, 2012 9:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They WERE NOT going to draft CJ Spiller.
I know that, for a fact. Vic somehow convinced everyone they would, just like he did with the Beanie Wells garbage.
Was it smokescreens?
Or personal bias?
Thought he was above both?
So you want to draft a RB in the top ten in the offseason after MJD leads the league in rushing and breaks the franchise record? Please explain the logic of that to me
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by montanajagsfan on Jan 1, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
The offense needs playmakers. With the the 7th pick I do not see the Wide Reciever we need, right now. Using the BAP system TRich is probably number one assuming Luck, Kalil, Blackmon, Claiborne, RGIII are gone. The Skins are a wildcard and I think could reach for Landry Jones if he comes out. So players under consideration would likely be Richardson who would be another playmaker albeit not a reciever, Reiff OT, Kirkpatrick CB, Martin OT, and maybe Floyd or Jeffrey with good postseasons. OT is a possibility with Whimpers bad play, as is CB with Mathis gettinh older. I think Richardson would be a safe choice although not a need and would generate excitment. I hope though that Blackmon could fall or Floyd/Jeffrey proves they are better than Richardson because I see the need for a WR.
SCALP'EM
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by Thunder64 on Jan 2, 2012 12:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
"I see the need for a WR..."
Really? What about Mr Robiskie, Cecilia and Chastise West?
Joking.
I think we should take advantage of the depth of this class and get a WR in the second and/or third rounds like Kendall Wright, Dwight Jones, Alshon Jeffries, Sanu, Toon, Jordan White
What could of happened; did.
I agree a wr in round 2/3 and then 1/2 in FA
SCALP'EM
Jesus is Lord!
by Thunder64 on Jan 2, 2012 9:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
WR's can be had in Free Agency this year
no reason to obsess about filling them in the draft this year… besides, we have been a historically bad judge of WR talent out of college up to this point
by whaley on Jan 2, 2012 7:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There is alot of postseason scouting to be done
There will be a good/great talent there.
SCALP'EM
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by Thunder64 on Jan 1, 2012 9:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
bitter sweet day but man
i really want claiborne or blackmon in the 1st and if not trade back. someone will be looking to trade up for smone. didnt the eagles trade up for brandon graham? and pick him ahead of jpp
The Jags should pick BAP...
I think the Jags should get either Dwayne Bowe or Vincent Jackson in FA…
If the Jags can get either one in FA and pick up Blackman in the draft, that will get the Jags passing offense in the teens…keeping the defense and MJD more fresh and more players off IR
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by SDubxl456 on Jan 1, 2012 10:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Are there too many receiver-needy teams
for Blackmon to fall to 7? I think he is benefitting from the hype-machine right now. Any chance he free falls like Blaine did?
Or do you think Floyd climbs to where (I hear) he belongs and Gene overlooks the “character issues?”
Well, say goodbye to Claiborne and RG3...
They won’t be there at 7. Blackmon might.
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Based on Drafttek teams needs
1 Indianapolis :Needs nothing we gave it to them. QB Luck
2 St. Louis Needs OT.CB.DT.LB..WR Select OT Kalil
3 Minnesota Needs CB.SS.LT.OG.WR Select CB: Claiborne
4 Cleveland Needs RB. WR.RT select:WR Blackmon
5 Tampa Bay Needs LB. CB.RB. select LB Kuechly
6 Washington Needs: QB. RT.CB select: QB.RGIII
7 Jacksonville Needs: HC. QB.WR.. CB.WR. OT.TE
Leaving us with the rest. I’d be okay with CB Kirkpatrick, OG DeCastro or LB Zach Brown
maybe Rieff as a guard or RT only.
Second round get the likes of WR Kendall Wright, Dwight Jones Alshon Jeffries or QB Ryan Tannehill who may be elevated ala Gabbert
What could of happened; did.
Jeffery in the 2nd?
Is this the same jeffery that is supposed to be challenging blackmon for the first wr taken. Do a little bit of research next time will you.
The same.
I’ve done my research he’s ranked 49th at Draftek , our pick is 39.
Draft value depends on who you listen to. That’s why I listed a bunch of different ones…
What could of happened; did.
and drafttek has jags getting RG III in round 2
so much for putting credibility in their rankings
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DraftTek is a great tool
And they do their research based on guys who individually follow each team, rather than look at needs and fill gaps. They’re reasoning behind us drafting Matt Barkley in the first last time is because they know of Gene’s proclaimed BAP philosophy.
That being said, DraftTek often under/over value some guys, some times. I have followed the draft with their final CMD the last two years, and they have a very high amount of success, especially finding guys that will fall (DaQuan Bowers, for example).
There’s no way RGIII or Jeffrey would make it to the second round, and yes, this does make it lose credibility. I highly suggest that you follow them for a little while, though, so you can see for yourself that these guys are the exceptions, not the norm.
I also like that there is some media out there willing to do Mock’s with a little balls. Who predicted the fall of Clausen? Not the MSM.
Where have you been?
Jeffery’s draft stock has fallen significantly over the last month, Jeffery needs a good game today at the Capital One Bowl
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In my opinion
and that’s all it is, opinion, Gabbert will develop next year into what we were hoping he would be this year. I believe 2013 will be his better year. Project with alot of upside. At least he appears to see the field better than the last one. Also, I don’t see the Jags drafting a HC with the first pick. I am sure they will hire one before the draft (tongue in cheek, before I get berated). It will be WR, CB, Offensive line. That is hopefully.
by Nolan Sackett on Jan 2, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
@Mullayo
Wouldn’t you rather, say sign Carl Nicks, a 26 y/o premium Guard than use number 7 overall on a guard. OLB would be a luxury pick for us….when healthy, sessions is barely on the field as our scheme is more nickle-based. Kirkpatrick….maybe, but he’s no Claiborne.
What I’d really like to see is Reiff. He’ll be the second/third tackle taken, so his cost will be appropriate for a RT, there’s nothing available in FA, there’s not a lot of depth at tackle this year, and most of all, I think he’s going to be a great RT who may even push Monroe for LT down the line.
Monroe-Nicks-?-?-Reiff; with ? being settled between Nwarni, Meester, Rackley, Spitz and Britten. That’s a lot of young, great to elite talent at 3 spots, and a couple young and veteran guys that are at least solid at the other 2. We could survive off that line for years, or draft a center high in the following years and make the line elite. Let’s get that aspect of the offense taken care of, so we can focus on our receivers in the rest of a very deep class.
I like Nicks but wouldn't he be more expensive than the younger De Castro?
Eric Galko at Optimum Scouting says DeCastro is the best guard prospect he’s ever scouted, someone else says he’s the best he’s graded since Maurkice Pouncey, maybe we could trade down a few spots
I have doubts about Rieff he’s a converted tightend and may have some gaps in his technique. He’s nasty though which is something I think our o- line needs it’s personality is very passive.
And a legit RT also gives our line more flexibility so yeah I’d take him at 7.
What could of happened; did.
Nicks is definitely going to be expensive.
The saints will make him a decent offer, but they wont be able to afford him because of their other expensive guard – can’t justify spending OT money on TWO guards, lol. But a team could afford to spend it on one…and so could we.
Let’s say De Castro comes right in and is just as good as Nicks. We save on some change for a little while, but just like Nicks he’s going to want the big bucks as soon as he can get it. In the meantime, we have spent a 1st round pick on a talent who will likely not be as good a Nicks until the following season, even if he’s a fantastic prospect.
Plus, if you’re going to throw a lot of money at a FA, why not make it a 26 year old All-Pro talent for a position you’d probably not draft in the first round under any circumstances anyways.
I see Decastro going to a team that thinks they have the luxury of taking a possible future all-pro at Guard in the 1st round. Or maybe the Bengals since they have to 1st rounders.
I should be excited
About the possibilities available with our 1st round pick. But deep down I’m kinda worried Gene doesn’t “surprise” us – In a bad way.
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by 78hustla Jag on Jan 2, 2012 3:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions
agree picking at 4 the BPA is straight forward enough
but at 7 he could but at 7 he could start reaching all around
What could of happened; did.
After thinking about it last night...
Gene’s history shows that he might sacrifice picks to move up for a top 5 pick.
i kinda hope not
But then again I would understand why
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by TheTealDeal on Jan 2, 2012 9:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would rather have them
tank games than move up and give up draft picks.
Right now barring a trade
My favorite is DeCastro and later ill write a fanpost why.
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by TheTealDeal on Jan 2, 2012 9:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
we need a RT
we are set at the rest of our OL positions but as long as we address OL Ill be happy.
OG @ pick 7
doubt it is BAP, and OG is not enough of a need
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wasted pick
guard aint worth a top ten pick no matter how good he is. look at the nfl right now and theres probably only a few guards that would be taken in the top ten and those are the best in the nfl and their is no gurantee decastro will be a top 5 guard in the nfl
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 2, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
thank you
I mocked him to us, and everyone bitched me out.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 2, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think you draft a G in the first round...
my wish list (mine):
WR Dwayne Bowe (FA)
WR Justin Blackmon (Draft)
RT/G Britton (healthy) move him back to RT
Bring back the following players:
Rashean Mathis (due to his age and injury we may get him back at a bargain price)
Dwight Lowery
DE Mincey
DE Roth
Get all the players on D that were on IR healthy.
Draft the following position if BAP (no particular order):
C
OG
CB
DE
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Can't count on Britton
I know we want to, but OL roll downhill forever with injuries and lack of production, no matter how young. Don’t get me wrong…I’d love to be wrong, here, but I don’t see Britton making a starting impact on this team next year.
I don't understand why
Everyone keeps talking bap. Gene doesn’t go by it! Alualu and Gabbert were needs and reaches! Certainly not the best available player.
by caneman4 on Jan 2, 2012 12:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think Gene uses BAP
As his trigger finger, not as Vic described it, exactly. Rank em’, list ‘em, pick ’em may be true, but if you’re only ranking and listing the guys you scouted…the guys who are comprised 75% of need positions, it can give a very confusing result of BAP.
I think Gene scouts certain positions all the way to the colorado school of mines…to find the very best at each position and rank them against each other to help facilitate the best by position. Then, he and his scouts have a list of other players that have caught their attention throughout the year. Gene himself said in one of Vic’s last articles that the position matters in his consideration of Value, and why shouldn’t it?
Ever notice we like to draft a lot of guys at the same position? I think this is why. That’s why we grab guys that are either exact needs or guy that belong to a deep class. I think Gene is good at figuring this stuff out, and knows he could be passing up other guys in the mean time.
Here’s how I think this is different from needs based drafting.
It’s pretty safe to assume he’s scouted WRs, CBs, OL and DL (I think OL and DL will always be scouted by him, btw). Come each of our picks, I think the logic is that there will be a guy from one of these positions at each of our picks, so that no matter where we pick we should have a BAP need selection. Punter is another need and a much smaller group of guys, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a punter, as well.

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