Mike mularkey tenur in buffalo

by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 11, 2012 8:39 AM EST

So mike mularkey is the new jags head coach and much is being made of his tenur in buffalo. I am a bills fan along with a jags fan. this post is coming solely from memory so there might be some misses and some errors as far as players go. im also not a huge fan of the hire so this might make this article a little more biased. But i take slight issue that some people are making it out to be a rather impressive accomplishment that he got buffalo to a 9-7 record and its is not an accurate thing to say. its hard to believe but buffalo has had some good players and during his tenure he had the best bills teams in recent memory. In 04 it was actually viewed as a disappointment for that team to go 9-7 loss the last week knocking them out of the playoffs(remember that feeling well)

in 2004 to 2005 these are the note worthy players on the bills team

willis mcgahee

drew bledsoe(in 04 only)

terrence mcgee

nate clements

london fletcher

takeo spikes

Aaron schoebel

lawyer milloy

pat williams

troy vincent

jabari greer?(i think but he didnt play much)

lee evans

eric moulds

he resigned due to "differences" but i remember that the team was not responding to him and you could tell from their play on the field. Levy was coming in to take the team in a different direction due to the dissapointing play the past 2 years. Mularkey saw the writing on the wall and resigned before he was fired (most likely after the 06 season if they did not perform well). He also was the one who started the quarterback controversy by putting in holcomb in the middle and the end of the 2005 season even though the team was jp losmans' at the time. Im not trying to mercilessly bash the hire but seeing him in buffalo i can only hope he does a much better job for us because if not we will be in for a long LONG ride that wont lead us anywhere near the playoffs. Also give the bills some credit they are a terrible team but they had some good teams back in the day

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Can't help but to stir that pot can you?

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by MadKow on Jan 11, 2012 8:47 AM EST reply actions

i just try to provide a different view point

whether people listen or agree it doesnt really matter but i cant see just one view on this site i try to point out things in the other direction to atleast get some people thinking or for some discussion. if thats stirring the pot then yeah i guess i do

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions

Which is generally that of the pessimist

Your post make you out to be the typical impatient fan. You seem to fail to realize there are no guarantees in football. The finest example was the Eagles this year. All the talent yet no good.

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by MadKow on Jan 11, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions

and you come off as the typical patient fan

who will always be happy with whatever the organization does. they could trade blaine gabbert today and you would spin it to be a good thing.and let me point to the team we talk about above the bills. fans are always opptimistic when they show any sign of good but they will never be superbowl contenders until they change the culture. much like here jacksonville

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions

I am the patient fan

I’m not about to start an Occupy Everbank movement because they did not get the coach I wanted or the players I liked. You will find it a waste of time, because they will do what they think is best not us.

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by MadKow on Jan 11, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions

youre right

theyll do what they want. doesnt mean what they do is right. they might have more credentials than anyone on this site or sitting in the stands but considering we havent been to the playoffs with this front office they might not know that much either. when it comes down to it people are going to be pissed until we win simple as that. being pissed after one year is unrealistic being pissed after 3 isnt

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 11, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions

and sorry, but we need more patient fans

an inpatient fan is one who doesn’t support the team cause they don’t win.
Sports aren’t my life, do I LOVE watching them, especially when they win, of couse.
But if they lose, or hire someone the average fan doesn’t want, am I going to cancel my season tickets? No. Because I’m a true fan and I watch the GAME to enjoy it.

But the thing I don’t get about you impatient fans, there is another name for it.
“Fairweather fan” or “frontrunner” I like the jags cause they are my team and I have a connection to them, if you want a team that wins, there are plenty in the playoffs.

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by TmannZOU on Jan 12, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions

so you are a true fan?

ive grown up only watching the jags they are the only team i know. i am not a fair weather fan there is nothing to be fairweather about. i watch every snap of every game and i want nothing more for the team to win. thats the only point in football is to win otherwise there would be no playoffs or superbowl to prove whos the best. if you just watch the games cuz you like watching football good for you but dont even for a second try to put down another fan because he wants to win

some people are winners and some are losers and those who are content with losing are just that. losers. so maybe if fans like you werent content with watching a perenial laughing stock we would have more success because it would put pressure on the front office to do a little more. so if am impatient its because i love the jags and want them to win for them as a team and the fanbase.

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 12, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions

and some coaches are just a bad fit at a given point in time

I believe Mularkey learned his lesson from the Buffalo deal and if anything, he got an MBA in NFL business.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 12, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, I am a true fan.

And yeah, the point of the GAME is win. This is the second time I’ve posted GAME because it is a GAME unless you actually are a player for an NFL team, you shouldn’t base how happy you are in your life off of what other people playing a game for our enjoyment don’t live up to your “standards”

I’m a fan who enjoys watching my team week to week despite the outcome of the game because I’m a fan of the team, not of winning.

BTW, don’t lie to people, either you were a Buffalo fan, like your fanpost indicates, or you’ve grown up with the jags as they only team you know.
Clarify please.

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by TmannZOU on Jan 12, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions

and sorry for the double post,

but the point of me calling you a fairweather fan, is that they are fans who are only satisfied (only follow the team) when they win.

I’ve seen you around the site and wasn’t calling you persey a fairweather fan, but maybe once every week or two you post a fanpost of some sort that makes me wonder.

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by TmannZOU on Jan 12, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions

im critical of the team

i can be a true fan of the team and be critical of them.
its like the government. i can still like the idea of the government but be critical and disagree with some of the decisions it makes. i love the jags and want them to win and i see no reason why they shouldnt be winning thats why i get pissed at them

also to the jags/buffalo thing my father grew up loving the bills and i grew up in jacksonville so thats how i became a strong fan towards both teams

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 13, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions

since you are the ONLY jag fan to dis on Mularkey...

..right

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by TmannZOU on Jan 12, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions

Gaves bills first winning season since 1999

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by MadKow on Jan 11, 2012 9:55 AM EST reply actions

Levy

Levy was hired in a panic move by Ralph Wilson. Unfortunatly for Mike he worked under two different head coaches who only lasted one year each in Miami. Once he stuck around in Atlanta, he improved that offense to the point they had 262 yards of passing offense per game in 2011

by Bryqan on Jan 11, 2012 9:58 AM EST reply actions

So is it not possible

that he has learned from the mistakes he made in Buffalo, and now understands the things he needs to do to correct them?

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by theMAGICman on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM EST reply actions

My guess is, that question was part of the interview process...

and he appearently answered them to Gene and Khan’s satisfaction.

by muddyballs on Jan 11, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions

never said that

but if he hasnt then we are screwed

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions

One point

Malarkey was right in leaving the Bills. Buffalo bringing Levy back was an unqualified disaster. Like the skins and Gibbs. Old geezers past there prime by some peoples entire prime is always a train wreck. Malarkey was right. He was right that the second coming of Levy (who is the same age as Moses) was a huge mistake. He was right that the J.P. Losman experiment was a mistake. You hire a HC to lead the way. If you are going to saddle him with Dinosaur executives and crappy over drafted players why should he stay? For the money? For the prestige? Too say he didn’t quit despite stupidity?
I say Nice walk Mike.

by cathousecrazy on Jan 11, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions

ok your points are valid with levy and losman

but levy was a good head coach that led the bills to their only real success and a great man at that so i think its kind of disrespectful to address him that way knowing all he has done for the buffalo community. yes he was old and should not have been hired again but show some decent respect to a man like Levy who was nothing but a great class act

also losman was in his second year of starting and put up numbers similar to gabbert his first year of starting so it wasnt proven that losman was a bust yet

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 11, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions

Not a bad coach

I, as a Bills fan, would have liked to see what would have happened if he stuck around, but judging by the train wrecks that were the Levy drafts, I think it would’ve gone just about the same.

I think it is good news for you guys that he won’t be calling plays. My memories of him in Buffalo (and I said this on Buffalo Rumblings earlier) is that when the game was on the line, or in big moments, he was too cute by 1/2. Almost like instead of just letting his players execute and beat the other team (and there was often the talent to do that) he felt he had to fool the other team on offense. Maybe that’s just the Bills fan in me only remembering the bad moments (were there good moments?) of the last 12 years. I don’t wish him ill will, even if I’m a little ticked at him for quitting. It’s an NFL head coaching job.

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by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 11, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions

It’s an NFL head coaching job.

and now he’s gotten another…possibly because he walked away from that one before it got worse?

by CheapSeat on Jan 11, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions

wasn't this around the time Donahoe took over from John Butler?

Butler was a star on the rise then went to San Diego and died. A lot of you guys seem to be committing the fallacy of thinking a person cannot grow or learn from mistakes made 7 years ago.

I kinda like that he’s (from what he said during his presser) going into this as a delegator. We had JDR wearing too many hats and look what it got us. We have a few things working here, namely a new owner who wants to make an immediate splash and a GM who’s tail is on the line.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 12, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions

my bad. Apparently Butler left earlier than the Mularkey era

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 12, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions

He resigned most likely due to a combination of the following circumstances

Donahoe had released Bledsoe, and replaced him with Holcomb/Losman. The rumor is Mularkey didn’t think Losman was ready, and wanted to keep Bledsoe around for one more year.

*Donahoe was fired, and incoming GM Marv Levy, or owner Ralph Wilson wanted Mularkey to fire some of his assistants. Most likely Tom Clements.

*HIs kids were being harrassed, badly at the school they attended.

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by mob16151 on Jan 12, 2012 12:30 AM EST reply actions

Dang thats some heavy stuff

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by TheTealDeal on Jan 12, 2012 3:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Just the things

that have leaked out of OBD since the resigning.

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by mob16151 on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 AM EST up reply actions

Wasn’t that Greg Williams kids, not Mularkey’s? I could be wrong though….Regardless, it sucks, but I’m not sure which one it was and can’t seem to find anything about it…..but I’m pretty sure it’s why Donahoe got himself in hot water at the Greg Williams firing press conference with some of the stuff he said about Bills fans (instead of just calling out the idiots).

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by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 12, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions