You're not a real fan.
by Alfie Crow on Jan 12, 2012 8:07 PM EST
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PrintMuch has been made about Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shahid Khan's quip at the Mike Mularkey introductory press conference. "For me a fan is somebody who is a season ticket holder for the Jaguars. So that is a key definition we need to get out. We want to hear from people, we want a huge amount of constructive feedback. We need input, but we need that from fans who are season ticket holders," Khan said at the press conference.
At face value and without the context, that comment looks exceedingly condescending and insulting, painting "non-fans" with a broad brush. This of course leads to people l to jump on the comment and twist into something it's not. Inevitably, you have people complain that "I can't afford season tickets," as if Khan was referring to people who are unable to financially get tickets or "I live in Montana and I pay for Sunday Ticket and five jerseys!". Khan's quip was targeted to the inevitable loud minority of "fans" who complain just to complain. The people who always have an excuse as to why they won't buy season tickets or some ridiculous "requirement" for them to purchase season tickets. You will never win trying to cater to those people and that was somewhere Wayne Weaver failed. Weaver tried to please everyone and in turn pleased no one.
So, you live in Alaska and don't buy season tickets but you're a Jaguars fan. Obviously, Khan isn't expecting you to purchase season tickets. So, you struggle to pay your mortgage and feed your family. Obviously, Khan isn't expecting you to sacrifice those things to be season ticket holder. So, you're that guy who calls the radio station to complain that the cup holders in the stadium you've been in twice (once for a Monster Truck Rally) aren't big enough so you're not buying tickets... Well, you're the guy Khan is talking to. You're the guy he's talking about.
Seriously, you guys. Use some common sense. If you were bothered by the comment... maybe he's right. Maybe you're not really that big of a fan after all.
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thats why i said it......
…….and they were my second team, now my first, because green bay has no “owner” so they “owner” cant discriminate, they accept fans from everywhere, and not just season ticket holders.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 12, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
I once got a sunburn
while at a game so I’m not buying season tickets
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I once went to a Jags game and they lost
so I’m not buying season tickets
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The roar cheerleaders aren't as good as Dallas'
so I’m not buying season tickets
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It rained
so I’m not buying season tickets
by Kasey Fairchild on Jan 12, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
It was a long walk
from the parking lot to the stadium so I’m not buying season tickets
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It was too hot
so I’m not buying season tickets
by Kasey Fairchild on Jan 12, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
someone gave me a funny look
in the men’s bathroom so I’m not buying season tickets
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It took
4 seconds instead of 3 for the toilet to flush in the stadium so I’m not buying tickets
by jagsfan17 on Jan 12, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the games are blacked out
so im not buying season tickets
by SexonvilleShaguars on Jan 12, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Jaxson isn't a real live jaguar
so im not buying season tickets
by SexonvilleShaguars on Jan 12, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
The equipment manager sucks
So I’m not buying tickets.
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by BurritoBrosShits on Jan 12, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions
So...
I guess Alfie gets to decide who is a fan and who isn’t. If he bans all of the people he blocks on twitter from being a fan then the Jags really will have a season ticket problem…
by Jville.Josh on Jan 12, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Who is?
Look at the other franchises in the league. Dallas, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, ect. They have many fans in other parts of the country. Using your logic they aren’t fans of their teams either. I just think it’s a waste of time to sit around and try to determine who is a ‘real fan’ and who isn’t. But from what I have seen it’s usually the ‘true fan’ season ticket holders that are causing the issues and passing judgement. I am not sure I have ever heard of any fanbase of any other sports team sit and worry about who their ‘true fans’ are.
He mispoke
he mispoke, he meant jaguar fans, I am a fan living in toledo ohio, but I bought season tix last year and traveled to a few games, and sold the ones I couldnt make for a little profit, so I did my part in BOTH ways, You do realize you can buy season tix, and make money right? even if you live in other parts of the country. point is that the guy is getting slammed much because people are looking to slam him for his race(much like the ground zero mosque thing, that was neither a mosque, or at ground zero) the people who write these things know the race card makes alot of people look at the story, and of course the biggots come out to throw some comments around, so its a win win for the writer, and your screwed for Mr Khan- but hey at least some press is better then none, heck maybe the stories will even sell some biggot tickets, and IMO more tickets sold=better team=stays in jacksonville
um wow
put the ritalin down, take a deep breath and back away from the keyboard…slowly
by JohnnyBiceps on Jan 13, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Angry?
Nope. Alfie and I are best friends. I am going to buy him a beer the next time I see him at a Jaguar related event. Unless of course he blocks me from coming to Jaguars events. He is the Lord and Master of Jaguars Fandom, after all. lol.
That dude in Australia sure as hell isn't a fan. He's not even American.
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by BurritoBrosShits on Jan 12, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
@ burrito bro comment..lol.
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by 78hustla Jag on Jan 12, 2012 9:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"If you were bothered by the comment... maybe he's right. Maybe you're not really that big of a fan after all."
Sorry, but that’s not true. I just recently moved back to Jacksonville and, as I’ve said twice before already, if I could buy season tickets, I would. I don’t have pressing financial issues that some have, I just don’t have the means to buy season tickets. Again, I wasn’t offended by him saying it but it was eye brow raising when he said it. Knowing he was joking now shows he has a sense of humor, but maybe for future references though, he should find better ways to word his jokes when telling them in public.
You’re obviously bothered by it (by offering up the reasons you can’t) when he clearly wasn’t referring to people who legitimately can’t.
Maybe for future references, people could look at the context of how and when things are said before getting upset about it?
I could almost see it
We live in a sound byte world. I listened to the presser yesterday and at first could not discern whether the media onsite laughed or groaned. Weaver was never off the cuff like that. People here want coddling.
Prisco made a rather big deal about it today and some folks took it and ran.
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You're right.
I was shocked when I heard him say it, yet at the same time, as I said, I didn’t take personal offense to it. As I seen someone else say in another one of these articles, it was the wording that was the issue to most people. I’m no less of a fan now than I was before this happened and I still have every intention on becoming a ticket holder as soon as I can. Again, you’re right. People should learn to not take things out of it’s context but it is a two way street in that aspect.
for what it's worth
I’m 6’5 370.
I don’t fit. It irks me too. I wish there was a part of the stadium for bigger guys.
oh, and I rip the cupholders off the seats because they cut my legs.
get a club seat or park your rump in the Bud Zone
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Exactly! Get an upper deck seat and stay in the Bud Zone all game. Cheap seat price, lower bowl location!
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
by DownTownJax on Jan 12, 2012 10:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For what its worth...
many of the isle seats in the upper deck do not have the Isle side arm rest. The one I sit in does, but mine does not. You might find that more comfortable……just a thought!
buy early
and get a seat that is near a aisle, and also on the “rail” problem solved, my uncle is 6’5 450, and had a aisle seat on the “rail” (first row, aisle0 aqnd he sat quite comfortably, in fact we had seats next to each other for the season, and we changed season “seats” 3 times until we found seats that could accomodate his size, the Jaguar ticket staff were great in helping us find our eventual seats, and also helping us change until we did. The “rail” gives you around an extra foot of legroom, and the aisle lets at least on of your arms dangle free, I gotta admit that the seats are a bit cramped though(elsewhere)
I don't see the big deal that everyone is making out of his comments
I don’t live in Jacksonville, and I didn’t get offended.
Can't stand the truth?
Me neither
Hey, the NFL is a business. If you’re not spending money on the product, than who needs you as a fan ? There’s no award for team with the most people who call themselves a fan.
and I’m only being somewhat sarcastic here….
may be better to let it settle down on its own instead of bringing more attention to it? Khan already explained the comment, so that should settle it.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 12, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I say buy tickets and shutup.
If you cant afford them fine, keep the reason too yourself. If you live far away thats too bad but shutup. People get way too sensitive about the smallest things. On a happier note my next deployment to Iraq just got cancelled today. Lets hope it stays cancelled. As much as Ive been there I could own season tickets to the Iraqi National soccer team and never miss a game!
by JagSoldier on Jan 12, 2012 9:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
" People get way too sensitive about the smallest things "
exactly… it’s not a personal attack as some seem to think…
I hope you’re not called up again for Iraq. (former Army myself)
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Totally
Our fans are really disappointing sometimes…well often. If theres a reason to bitch, lookout
by JohnnyBiceps on Jan 12, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
You don't give them enough credit
they don’t need a reason.
Sorry to prickle anyones tender Vagina, but...
Khan is right, only the Season ticket holders matter. If you live to far away to come to games, thanks for following the team but you can’t help support it and keep it here. If you can’t afford to buy tickets or can only do so once or twice a year, thanks for liking the team, but you also are little to no help in keeping it in Jax. We need 55-60 thousand season ticket holders to assure this team is ours. Nothing else will get the job done. Sorry if life has left you inelligable, but if your in it to win you have to prioritize. Being sensitive to the feelings of everyone, even if they can’t help your cause is very kind and considerate. And it is a recipe for failure. Ask Mr. Weaver.
That’s how we roll in the 448.
" If you can’t afford to buy tickets or can only do so once or twice a year, thanks for liking the team, but you also are little to no help in keeping it in Jax "
Really? That’s a good recipe for failure. Although, I did like your subject line.
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Really.
Once we have 55-60 thousand Season ticket holders the single game ticket sales are relevant, but until then they don’t get it done. You can’t put 68,00 people in the stadium with single game ticket sales. Every NFL franchise exists on it season ticket base.
Single game tickets are like icing, they make a sweet and pretty finished product but only whern applied to thick layers of basic a** cake.
by cathousecrazy on Jan 12, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
the key is the suites and club seats
There’s gonna be a big culture change in the stadium next year. Has to be.
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with that
Here is the problem with that.. Every NFL town has its own share of multi national cooperation’s with money to burn and big money earners to buy those club seats. Here in Jacksonville we only have Winn Dixie, CSX, and Fidelity Finical most of which don’t even break us into the top 100 of fortune sized companies. Jacksonville is a working man’s town and Hopefully the owner understands that and factors that into the equation of keeping this team here
by jesusjagfan2009 on Jan 14, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
and it's gonna take a 5 figure waiting list
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That's crap.
Who do you think are the people that are going to help get to where you are saying the team needs to be in number of season ticket holders? I see no one has commented on the fact that the only people who could possibly be offended by what he said are people that love the Jaguars. Not LIKE them but LOVE them. You can say that he shouldn’t be sensitive to peoples feelings but the passion that people have for this team is just that, a feeling. I’m not saying he has to be sensitive to it but it is a must that he be aware of that fact. If not, he’s going to ruin his reputation and alienate part of the fanbase. This is not the business he is coming from where things are cut and dry the way he’s used to them being.
Uh...
no. To reiterate, I was never upset, just shocked. My above comment to cathousecrazy was an argument against him saying “only the Season ticket holders matter”. I don’t agree with that.
They have to matter most, though.
It’s irrational to think otherwise. The people who actually shop at the bookstore have to matter more to the store than those who read books at the bookstore without buying.
No one is arguing...
which fans are most important and those who aren’t. I think the big issue was who is considered as ‘real’ fans and who aren’t.
I understand your point
And at its core I agree, but I also think it’s good to develop a national, or even international, fan base. Teams like the Steelers, Packers, etc. that have no issues with tickets and sell out every week are also very well liked by many outside of their hometowns. Popularity breeds interest and interest leads to ticket sales.
So while a fan that’s too far to feasibly attend every game doesn’t directly help the team, they are a small part of building a good culture for the team. They’re not nothing.
That said, if you live in China and you’re pissed off that Khan says you’re not a fan. Get over it. He wasn’t talking about you.
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by Adam Stites on Jan 13, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with Adam
I am a Jaguars fan from Germany. I am not a season ticket-holder, but follow the team since day one. I was a high school exchange student 94/95 in Jax. The last ten years it got a lot easier with keeping up to speed with (cheaper) internet.
Shad said he wants to develop the international market which is a great idea for a team from Florida (as a tourist destination).
Personally I do my best to push ticket sales (because I am scared that the Jags will move some day). Everytime a person I know travels to Florida in the autumn, I buy Jags tickets as a gift (the last one was for the Texans game).
Concerning the comments of our new owner: I guess he wanted to say, I do not care for those people who say: I will not buy tickets, if soandso is (not) on the team. I agree one hundred percent with that philosphy.
From listening to Shads comments on JTW (last and this week), I am certain that he does not care abut money that much, he wants to win Super Bowls. He is a fan who bought a franchise. As a side note, I see a danger in him might being to impatient.
On JTW he talked about the fans needing to be the 12th man. For me that includes having a packed stadium. His goal is that the national media (aka Peter King) writes in a couple of years something like: “The Falcons/Packers/Patriots started 10-0, but they will not have a perfect season because they have to travel to Jacksonville in week 13. Somethihng to contempleate, the Jags record in Jacksonville for the last 3 years 23-1.”
I also firmly believe if you have a reputation of beeing invincible at home that is when you start to become a legit championchip contender each year. And that is his goal.
Some thing to consider Shad had to work for everything, therefore I am certain that he does not want to insult fans who just can not afford tickets.
Jagslovers from Jacksonville and all over the world (with or without money) take care,
Nick
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nice post i do agree with you. Shad is well spoken (you don’t get where he is if you talk like an uneducated idiot) I work and deal with a lot of middle eastern people and one thing they are when it comes to business is straight forward and no time for BS. He is being straight forward and is letting the city know that what he expects
by jesusjagfan2009 on Jan 14, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
um...
what about merch sales, does that not help the team as well? ask Dallas why they have their own special and different merch sold thru the nfl site
Maybe what he's saying in nicer words in much nicer words than I would
is that if you’re some freeloader who can afford to support the team but don’t and merely want enough other people to buy tickets so the game will be televised so you can sit on your couch and watch it for free all the while bitching about play calling or the fact the Jags didn’t draft or sign the guy who in your expert opinion will take the Jags to the Super Bowl, then he’s really not interested in hearing the crap you have to say. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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by unhipcat on Jan 12, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
That's exactly...
the group he was speaking to. The way I see it is, he was trying to make a generalized joke that just happen to apply to more people than he was saying it to.
LOVE THE FACT KAHN HAS THE KOJONES
To say what Weaver diddnt…Lots of strip clubs in Jax, so you guys know the game: Like looking at my NFL, and touching my NFL, huh? That will cost ya $89.90…pay up, sit down, and enjoy the show, or I gotta go. Lol….Season ticketholders fund NFL salaries, and thats what matters……My son and I will MATTER to the Jaguars in 2012, what about you and yours? Put up or shut up time, Jax.
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by 78hustla Jag on Jan 12, 2012 9:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It did sound di*kish. It's not wrong. But it's dic*ish.
You don’t tell wifey she needs to put the sandwich down cause she’s fat. It may be true. But you don’t say it.
yeah, but if you don't tell her
then you have a fat wife…
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That's when...
you do your damnest to find a better way to tell her.
no, but you take the gravy out of the house
And in essence, I think Khan is saying the gravy train is over with. If Jacksonville wants the NFL, then support the damn team by way of tickets and what he will do is give this team the tools it needs for on field success.
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I refused to buy tickets until they got new hotdogs
The next week the did, so I bought my tickets
Take stock in your lives, but leave your livestock alone
Good for Khan!
Walk tall and carry a big stick. Time to squash the freeloading, negative vocal minority that pollute our airwaves and blogsphere. No more free lunches in Jacksonville. Man up or move out.
by bigcat05 on Jan 12, 2012 10:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Im a huge fan from Ohio
Ive seen the Jags play 2 games 1 in detroit and 1 in Cleveland. I am a fan but Shad looks at it as a customer is a fan. he wants that money so he only considers people paying him as a fan. I get it but Im not buying anything from the Jags still. I will make it to JAX for a game in my lifetime tho.
Thats not true
If you buy a ticket in cleveland, to watch the jaguars, some of that money goes to the team, the same way, jacksonville pays out money to visiting teams when they come to everbank. AND if you subscribe to NFL sunday ticket, same same, jax gets money, but ultimately the more seats we fill at home, makes us able to spend more in FA, makes the NFL come here for night games,and is just “best” for the team overall
Really?
I am from Ohio, I am a Buckeye and I am a Browns fan, My wife and her father introduced me to the Jags and I have really fallen in love with this team. The very first time I really watched Jacksonville I said, I hate your coach and I hate your QB. I said that for two years. I now have a new QB and a new coach. So now….I am happy . Now the owner says go buy some tickets and support your team. If your so dumb that you think he was talking to people whom can’t afford it or people who live far away, then you need to seek some help from family members on your day to day living activities. Its pretty simple. Ohio State is laughed at because of all our issues we show up at a bowl game and get laughed at, Browns fans get laughed at all the time, support your team, take your kids and show them what it means and how special it is. Because I tell you what its a blessing to have one in your city. Columbus would die to have a team, so would L.A. or a handful of others…so stop this crap and buy some tickets, take your kids or buy some for someone and their kids who don’t have the money to go….Go Jags…My God..Knock this crap off….
by Joshua Jones on Jan 13, 2012 12:29 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Amen to that brother
I am from ohio too, and the jags have been my team since cleveland left for baltimore( i just couldnt take it anymore, and I still root for them against the steelers ever year anyways)You are right, jax needs to continue to sell tix, and sell more tix then they have been, if you cant see that, then you dont follow the team, and dont really care anyways. We hopefully have a owner that will shake things up and spend, and all he gets for his loyalty? is racist comments and hey I am a fan but I dont go to games- comments. THEY ARE THE CHEAPEST IN THE NFL, BUY A TICKET, AND SUPPORT YOUR TEAM, OR JUST SHUT UP ABOUT IT
Going on my 3rd yr season tix holder
I agree with Kahn…..he probably should’ve worded it differently but @ da same time he’s smart & knew just what he was sayin……I think he was jus tryin to get the SEASON TICKET HOLDER mentality instilled in peoples mind….I know a lot of guys that say their Jaguars fans but never ever make an attempt to attend 1 game or when the game is in jeopardy of a blackout, they don’t make an effort to get to the stadium………Kahn’s COMMENT WAS FOR THE ONES THAT CAN AFFORD OR HAVE HAD SEASON TIX.
by orecic76 on Jan 13, 2012 7:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i'm not buying tickets this year
Because the team didn’t sign Brett favre, Terrell Owens, Ochocinco and trade for tebow. They obviously don’t care about winning and are cheap!
Jags ticket holder since 1995.
by SicilianJag on Jan 13, 2012 7:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
What he said is right......
Baring a few very wealthy folks, season tickets are a burden financially to anyone. A season ticket holder has made a commitment to the team, and decided that being in EverBank on gameday is more important than anything else he could do with that money. Keeping the Jags right where they are is worth the sacrifice to that ticket holder. If you have made those decisions, then the Jags are more important to you than someone that has not, and as the owner, I want to hear form you. I am not going to get into others financial situation. If you really can not afford to go, then you know that. If you can afford to go, but find something else more important (going out to eat, smoking, drinking, seeing movies, driving a fancier car, living in a fancier house, etc.), then the Jags are maybe not as important to you as you think they are! A person that goes to EverBank to watch every home game is a bigger fan than someone who does not!
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I agree with...
everything you said except “A person that goes to EverBank to watch every home game is a bigger fan than someone who does not!” Wrong! To be considered a more important fan in the eyes of the owner is acceptable. But a bigger fan? Not true in the least.
I disagree....
If an individual makes the necessary sacrifices to attend the games opposed to someone that does not, I will consider them a bigger fan. Keep in mind, this does not apply to those that live too far away to attend games, and those who simply can not afford to go. This is no different than many other hobbies / vices in life. For example, I used to drag race, and I still own the 69 Camaro that I used. I spent way more than I should have doing that. One day, there came a point that I realized that there were other things more important to me than racing. Many of my friends continued to race. Racing was more important to them than me. Those guys continued to do what it took to get to the track. They were bigger fans of that activity than I was. To me, this is no different than my choice to do without other things to be able to attend the games at EverBank Field. It means more to me that those other things. That team means more to me than the other things. Someday, the new tile floor in the bedroom may win out, but not today!
If the debate...
is based off of the premise of “Keep in mind, this does not apply to those that live too far away to attend games, and those who simply can not afford to go.” Then I have no basis of an argument because I’m not included. With all things being considered, you’re right in your stance about this matter.
It has to include those two caveats.....
If your going to the games and not feeding your children or paying your mortgage, your not a true fan, your an addict and an idiot! The distance thing goes without saying. I do know people that drive from Tallahassee for each home game, but they are wealthy, and make a weekend out of it! I would not consider that normal, and certainly it is understanding if someone from Tallahassee that bleeds teal does not make it to the game!
I think you're spinning this in a whole different tangent than was the intent
There are a lot of folks who cannot afford to go to Jags games. That’s a given. I can afford to go, but if I brought my wife and kids, 1 – I would save a lot on beer and 2 – It’d be about a $400-$650 outing per game, or 2 days at Disney with food and parking.
Look, we get the economics of the deal, and Khan does as well. His comment was a flip off the cuff comment in passing that folks are taking and running with. In a city as big as Jacksonville, seeing as how there are 850,000 general managers, quarterbacks and coaches, surely there are 70,000 folks who can afford to go to games.
It’s not as if Khan has thrown down the gauntlet and said show up or I move immediately.
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I understand...
what you’re saying Joe and with that being said, I totally agree with everything. If I made this out to be more than what it was, it wasn’t on purpose.
Yawn
This isn’t a news worthy event, sorry.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM EST reply actions
did you know
The jaguar is largely a solitary, opportunistic, stalk-and-ambush predator at the top of the food chain (an apex predator). It is a keystone species, playing an important role in stabilizing ecosystems and regulating the populations of the animals it hunts. The jaguar has an exceptionally powerful bite, even relative to the other big cats. This allows it to pierce the shells of armoured reptiles and to employ an unusual killing method: it bites directly through the skull of prey between the ears to deliver a fatal bite to the brain.
Section 442, RIP
"You think you know, but you don't know."
What Khan really ment to say: "YOU ARE NOT A FAN UNLESS YOU OWN A SPORTS TEAM"
Seriously people, lighten up. His comment comes after years of people complaining about concessions, the coaches, not drafting Gators, drafting the wrong Gators, parking, weather (which is odd because the weather doesn’t deter them from living in FL the other 300+ days of the year), the non-existent traffic, etc. Lord knows I would not have been as artful in making a tongue in cheek kind of true quip about buying tickets if I’d been in his position. Sidebar: Not sure the “i can’t afford it” arguement is going to go over so well with an imigrant who worked his but off his whole life to accumulate the fortune necessary to buy a team. He really wanted something and he worked relentlessly until he could attain it, and he did it with few if any of the advantages of being a native born American.
This....
This is a non starter, I know what he meant we he said that, he meant Jax ville fans, not just season ticket holders, but since he mispoke, he is catching hell in the media, I went to yahoo sports the other night, and quite frankly was shocked at some of the comments(mosty racial in nature, and of course some jabs at his stache) It really sickens me to hear that kind of stuff “go home’ tow”"lhead etc etc etc) I tried to mention all the postive stuff he has done for this country, and for his alma mater, but lets face it, those guys making those comments, dont care that he spent millions on the illini, or has brought many many jobs to the chicago are etc, all they care about is making the next racist comment, I will admit that the he look like an extra in a 70’s porn flick kinda made me laugh though. Point is that this guy IMO will be our saviour, he will spend some cash, he will shake thngs up, and he cares about our input as fans(something most of the stories I have read, leave out) I dont care if he came out with a islamic wrap on his head, if this guy turns our team around, I dont care what he looks like, or what religion he practices, this is america, and this guy is the epitome of realizing the american dream, and if you try and take that away from him? then you dont give a crap about what the dream stands for(that someone can come here, and make a “dream” life, whereas the opportunity never excisted back “home”)
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