Bob Bratkowski, What To Expect From Jaguars Offensive Coordinator
by Alfie Crow on Jan 13, 2012 10:23 AM EST
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PrintThe Jacksonville Jaguars hired Atlanta Falcons quarterbacks coach and former Cincinnati Bengals offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski yesterday. The hire has been met with some mixed reactions, so I decided to ask someone who would know about him and his tendencies. Josh Kirkendall from SB Nation's Bengals blog Cincy Jungle was kind enough to give us a little scouting report on our new offensive coordinator.
During the best seasons of Bob Bratkowski's ten years as Cincinnati's offensive coordinator (2001 through 2010), he had Carson Palmer (before his eventual decline), Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmanzadeh all during the prime of their careers. Additionally Cincinnati had one of the best offensive lines in the NFL during that stretch, specifically in 2005 with multiple players either making the Pro Bowl or voted as an alternate.
During the prime of Cincinnati's offense in 2005, Bratkowski often called five to seven step drops, timing routes to T.J. Houshmanzadeh over the middle with Chad Johnson running the intermediary (10-15 yard square-in routes) and Chris Henry going vertical. From 2005 through 2010 (except 2009), Bratkowski had a 45 percent tendency throwing the football on first and ten and even if the pass fell incomplete, he ran the football on second down virtually every time.
Eventually Bratkowski's effectiveness declined with Cincinnati's inability to replenish the talent that departed, along with Carson Palmer's complete decline into mediocrity. It promoted and highlighted his lack of creativeness and inability to re-adjust to a defensive game-plan.
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Is Bratkowski the guy chad johnson was rumored to have punched during half time of that playoff game?
The scoop that put pft on the map…
bratt is also the guy that benson refused to play for anymore
once the season was over, benson told brown to choose. fire bratt or he wouldn’t resign.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
reminds me of half time of the Jaguars -Titans game in the AFC Championship game
Apparently Gary Walker punched Reggie Barlow or something like that at the half.
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I thought that was Hue Jackson?
Could be wrong though, Bengals halftime activities aren’t something I follow all that closely.
nope. It was Lewis
then he tried to swing on Hue
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So on the bright side
We got the former Cincy coach smart enough to not be in the room when Chad Johnson started throwing haymakers. That sounds like good decision making to me.
GM hires his buddy as HC. HC hires his buddy as OC. I sure hope having everyone on the same page isn’t overrated.
If I'm a GM and my ass is on the line, I'd want to align myself with coaches I felt comfortable with
let’s face it, odds are a Jeff Fisher will prove mediocre as there is typically a pretty good reason teams fire coaches.
If Gene felt comfortable with Mularkey, so be it. They have 3 years to prove something.
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The 3 year deals are key
Getting them all on synchronized deals is huge. If for some reason it doesn’t work out after 3 years (and that is definitely a fair amount of time) then Shad can turn the page without any loose ends like WW ended up with (JDR having another year but all the assistants allegedly being done this year). When you have that kind of overlap it makes it hard to assure assistant coaches some measure of job security (which is part of why we lost Mike Shule and Todd Monken I’m sure).
But these buddies are smart
Mularkey and Brat both coached with the Steelers which makes me feel really good. Brat former WR and WR coach. Mularkey former TE TE coach and QB coach. These guys know the passing game and that is exactly what we were looking for. I am confident these guys are solid coaches. They dont know defense but we have a HC as our DC in Tucker and Cullen to boot.
by childintime12 on Jan 13, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me
Or does it seem like every team dislikes their offensive coordinator? Sure, you can say that he had no creativity or could not adjust, OR Cincy could just accept the fact that they had significantly less talent on the field. Players not plays.
by Adam Bealyer on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
are their OCs really OCs are are they de facto OCs?
you think Philbin and Carmichael are gonna deviate from McCarthy and Peyton’s playbook?
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Playcallers
Carmichael has been calling ALL the offensive plays ever since Payton when down with that knee injury. Ever since then, Drew Brees and the Saints have been incredible and Payton let Carmichael continue the play calling
Jennings at the 30, at the 20, at the 10. TOUCHDOWN RASHAD JENNINGS!!
Payton and McCarthy call the plays
by Jags85 on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’ve tried to tell people when they complain about Koetter, every team who’s not winning on a consistent basis hates their coordinators.
unless their HC and/or QB have been there a while
then they gets the blame first. :-)
So basically, you can never really know if you have a good coach, because it could be just the players making it work, and you can only tell if you have a bad coach if they consistently lose with previously proven good players. But how often is there a job opening when the players have been performing consistently well? Cross your fingers, I guess.
If you don’t have the players that can execute the plays, it doesn’t matter how good of a play caller you are.
by Alfie Crow on Jan 13, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bratkowski isn't as bad as Cincy fans want to say or as good as they raved earlier
Cincy accumulated a lot of talent on the offense earlier last decade. Palmer was working his way towards being an upper echelon QB, Chad Johnson and TJ Housh@#$%$ (I won’t try to spell it) were n their primes, and Rudi Johnson was cranking out 1300 a year on the ground. Then the inevitable happened, age, injury, & decline. Palmer was never the same after the Steelers knee explosion incident, Rudi Johnson got worn out, and the WRs lost a step. Cincy has just now started re-accumulating talent. It’s unrealistic to expect continued high level production from offensive players for 10~ years. The kind of guys who do that go to the HOF. I think Mike Browns inability to build a consistent winner since he won’t spring for a Front Office has more to do with Bratkowski’s falling out of favor than some sudden loss of creativity in play calling. As Jags fans here know, it doesn’t matter how good the coach may be, it’s very rare when you get one who can make chicken salad out of chicken s$%#.
see Koetter, Dirk
Give Dirk a couple years in Alabama or Atlanta and watch all of the revisionist history take place if we struggle. We do it with Mike Smith and Tom Coughlin.
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Yup
Dirk came in here with a lot of fanfare then the offense looked more like something out of JDR’s image than what everything we’d been told about Koetter had led us to believe. Mike Smith (who I do think is a good coach) was known as a masterful play caller for the D here when he had Stroud and Henderson in their primes, but ATL wins with offense now. If ATL runs him out of town in the next year or two it’ll be a mistake. People mock WW and the Jags for being overly patient, but when you have a good coach, or a guy you think can become one you show that patience. JDR just wasn’t “the guy” for more than a few days a week from what I’ve heard, and that leveling out/becoming the consistently good coach they though never happened. Anyway, good coaches don’t grow on trees. And never fire without considering if there are actually better alternatives out there…
Wait a second.........
I wonder how much of that “inability to adjust” can be blamed on Marvin Lewis? Sometimes that falls on the OC and sometimes it is the HC’s fault.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM EST reply actions
Or five years ago or whenever....
Maybe I should pay attention.
Point is you just hope dude learns from mistakes of past and he and Mularkey gel with getting a good game plan together and making the most of the new toys they get this offseason.
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by Alfie Crow on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right handed. Pinkie finger underneath the bottom of the bottle to maximize control. Unless, of course, I’m drinking out of a mug. In which case I am usually seated and require less control over my beverage container.
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I drink mine England Tea style...pinky pointing out baby
Lol just kiddin’
by Jags85 on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, since I’m embroiled in a permanent game of Buffalo since my days in Tallahassee, I cannot be caught drinking in my right hand.
If someone calls buffalo while drinking a drink that is being held in your dominant hand, you have to chug. The game is continuous. Once you’re in, you can never get out
lol Fair enough...
I’m still a right handed guzzler, but now in my old age I am warming to the idea of a koozie on a rare tailgating occasion where the sipping beers need not apply. Call it growth in my old early 30s age.
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I haven't liked much that I've heard about Brat
but I’m ready to see what happens. You have guys that have had a hand in starting up successful careers for some young QBs. If nothing else comes of these three years…turn Blaine into something special.
Regardless of what he might be claiming
I do think Mularkey will have substantial say in the offense and so while he might not directly be calling plays, I do think we can expect Mularkey to have say in the general set of playcalling for a given game. I think that while it might be helpful to see what Brat did as OC in Cincy, he might be very different as OC in JAX becuase of the Mularkey factor.
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I’ve always thought if there is an “excitement pick” at all it will be at QB. I know Gene isn’t known for those but maybe Mularkey will want some big money thrown at a top tier QB guy.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM EST reply actions
You honestly don’t think they will spend big money on a QB coach? I’m thinking they have to.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 13, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yes but that has nothing to do with the point I made.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 13, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
I can hope...
but I don’t think so. It makes sense if they want to see payoff for the Gabbert investment.
I like the "45% throwing on 1st and 10" part
Almost 50/50 throw/run ratio on 1st and 10. I can’t stand when we’d line up 2 Tight Ends, and a fullback on first down. Teams knew what we were doing.
Throw the ball, make them guess once & a while.
Did it matter...
if teams knew what was about to happen if they couldn’t stop it? Most of the time, we’d still get positive yardage on the play leaving us with two more plays to get 5 to 7 yards for the first down. Considering teams knew what we were about to do and MJD still left the season with the rushing title, I’d say them knowing what we’re going to do and what they can do about it are seperate issues. Even with a new OC, it’ll only be so long before the guessing game is eliminated anyways as his tendecies will begin to show and the battle between what we’re going to do and what they’re going to do about it will start all over again.
I agree. The 45% throw on first sounds as unpredictable to me.
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by Conservative on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
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by Conservative on Jan 13, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
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