2012 NFL Mock Draft: Who do the Jaguars take?
by Alfie Crow on Jan 17, 2012 11:00 AM EST
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The 2012 NFL Draft will begin to become a focus for the Jacksonville Jaguars and many teams that are out of the NFL playoffs. The Jaguars pick 7th overall this year and could go a bunch of different ways, despite what many seem to think. In last week's mock draft the Jaguars got South Carolina wide receiver Alshon Jeffrey, which would be a useful pick. This week, the Jaguars get a player from the 2012 BCS National Championship team.
Click the jump to find out who the Jaguars get in the latest SB Nation 2012 NFL Mock Draft.
7. Jacksonville Jaguars, Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
The Jaguars really, really need a wide receiver. Alshon Jeffery (mocked here last time), Michael Floyd and Kendall Wright could all be in play here with a good pre-draft season. For now, they go with Kirkpatrick. Rashean Mathis tore his ACL in 2011, and he's 31. William Middleton, who showed some promise in six starts, landed on IR in December. They need help, Kirkpatrick could beef up a secondary with Derek Cox and a healthy Middleton, assuming they keep the RFA, in 2012.
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what if?
What if we got Dre from alabama and the receiver from Rutgers Sanu? can you imagine that we could get two really awesome players in 2 rounds but we would have to trade back to aquire a second round pic. I say sanu is a beast i just watched tape on him and add him with MJD and mike thomas and cecil shorts could be intresting
by jagsfan30302011 on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions
Why do we need
more than one second round pick?
well what do u think of wide reciever Justin blackmon? Ty Hilton?? or Rugers Sanu?
by jagsfan30302011 on Jan 17, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions
not worth it imo
I’d trade up for Claiborne but I think I’d rather take the picks.
because unless your name is Andrew Luck(or perhaps Robert Griffin III)
you are not worth being traded up for this year
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We traded up for Gabbert...and for a certain DE who shall not be named.
That didn’t turn out too well.
He's seeming more and more like the best logical option.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 17, 2012 11:25 AM EST reply actions
As an Alabama fan I’ve seen every game that Kirkpatrick has ever played. You guys won’t be complaining about him being soft. The guys not afraid of to lay the wood
Shake and Bake
That's cool...
but the second he gets injured, people won’t hesitate to blame Gene for drafting another injury prone player.
so because he hits hard means he’s injury prone? if you tackle with good technique then you’re no more likely to get injured than any other player. they’re are plenty of hard hitting players in the league who aren’t injury prone.
Shake and Bake
Ray lewis, patrick willis
But others that do get injured nob sanders, laron landry
by amujic32 on Jan 17, 2012 3:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't say that...
but a physical style of play will lend to a higher chance of getting injured, which is what I was trying to say. Should he get injured though, I’m sure a lot of people will instantly label him with the injury prone tag and blame Gene for it in the process.
I like
I like the Kirkpatric pick and as to the post about Sanu……He’ll be gone at the end of the first round….. People will begin to notice what he’s capable of.
Unpredictable
If past drafts are any indication, Gene Smith is contemplating something that is beyond prediction. We can’t assume that he’ll use the 1st round choice for a WR or DB. BAP may not be a player at either position.
Where are...
people getting this whole unpredictable thing from? I’m assuming it’s still from the Alualu selection. If people are calling his late round selections unpredictable, then that’s just stupid. Later in the draft, unless someone well known has fell, they’re all unpredictable selections for the most part.
Of his first round picks
I would say Monroe was the only player people saw coming, assuming the said player was available.
Ok if blackmon is there at 7
Do u take him or what? Is he good value at 7?
by amujic32 on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I do not think he is BAP over Kirkpatrick but I could see Gene just not passing him up if he was there.
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by Jagsrok9008 on Jan 17, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
BAP and fills a need
love the selection!
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fills a current need
What if by some crazy reason we scoop up a Brent Grimes or Brandon Carr in free agency?
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That would mean we'd be stuck with 3 starting quality corners.
What a shame, right? We’d just have to suffer through having an awesome secondary for the next 3-7 years.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I think we could manage...
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I still think...
someone would find a way to complain about that too.
well
i was not making that assumption.
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Kirkpatric would be BAP and a need
Kirkpatric is going to be a stud and I hope he slips to number 7 because I know Gene Smith will pull the trigger. I watch a lot of big ten football and a good WR from Michigan State is Cunningham. I heard he is the best WR at the east west game and they have him as a 3rd round pick. He is big and physical and someone the Jags should target. If WR doesnt make since in the 1st two round then get 2 defensive starters. Lets make that defense dominant and rely on a free agent WR to impact the team. If a top TE is there in round 2 pull the trigger.
TE's
The TE from Clemson would be ideal because he is light and a speed guy. The TE from Standford is a Marcedes Lewis type which would be good because he could block and catch. Then we woud only have to carry 2 TE on the roster.
by childintime12 on Jan 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I'll go ahead and ask
Why do we need another TE, especially a high draft pick? We have Lewis, Miller is serviceable once people put to bed that he is not going to be the next Dallas Clark, Potter is decent and the Clougherty kid has a lot of give a damn in him where he may stick on ST.
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by Joe Fisher on Jan 17, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because
Anyway you can improve the passing game you do it. Our needs on offense are 1 WR 1 RT and 1 TE. Thats not much. If we can get the best TE in the draft in the second round then why not? Look what Jared Cook is doing with the Titans. Zach Miller has proven he cannot be counted on to play a full season even though I like him.
by childintime12 on Jan 17, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
ok, how about this
if we need a TE, why not get the one who went to school with Gabbert and put up some crazy good stats? Pretty sure he is predicted about that range?
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
hell, he could be what we all thought Fernando Bryant was capable of.
The kid had all the tools…
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My only problem with Alshon is that he started the season overweight and the production dropped quite a bit. I know the QB situation factors in (and high yeild RB) but I don’t know if the explains awa all of it. i think some blame rests on him. I think this is the type of kid that you really have to do your homework on before you pull the trigger. Draft experts wory he may slack off and I think that is a valid thing to explore.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 17, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
I just don't trust the Jags to draft a WR
In the 17 years of jags history name one star WR that was drafted. We are jinxed. lol
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WR...DB....
If someone is giving me ‘a big ugly with our first pick’ or ‘the field’, I am confidently predicting that Gene goes with the Lineman.
by Clam Dip on Jan 17, 2012 12:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I dunno...
We’re set at DT 4 or 5 deep with Mosley and Douzable and it’s a terrible draft for DE’s. So I would pretty much rule out a D-lineman at pick 7.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Id let go of Mosley
Must resign Douzable as he proved he can play anywhere on the line. Danthony Smith will replace Mosley. Roth and Mincey should be resigned then we only need 1 addition up front. 1 addition at LB would be nice and 1 in the Dbacks. So with 6 draft picks Jags can fill all of their needs. WR, TE, RT, DE, CB/S, LB. Gene SMith has done a great job getting talent.
by childintime12 on Jan 17, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't specify...
Defensive or offensive. I just think it’ll be a big ugly.
by Clam Dip on Jan 17, 2012 2:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Trade back with Dallas or Cincy
Trade back with Dallas at 14, they move up to get Kirkpatrick, or Trade back with Cincy at 17 if they see someone they like (since they have 2 first round picks)
And from there we get our big #1 stud, Alshon Jeffery.
Thats actually possible
Dallas’ secondary is just as bad (if not worse) than ours was last year and the draft isn’t that deep at CB, so I could see them trading up, idk about Cincy but with their owner, theres no telling what they would do.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 17, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking for Cincy maybe trading up for Trent Richardson, but I don’t know.
I could see Dallas being aggressive for Kirkpatrick though, they are pretty much a borderline playoff team & adding Kirkpatrick could help them win the division.
It’s all hypothetical, who knows what will really happen.
The top three reasons not to draft a WR in the first round.
1. R. Jay Soward
2. Reggie Williams
3. Matt Jones.
the top three reasons to draft a WR in the first round.
1. Mike Thomas
2. Chastin West
3. Cecil Shorts
:)
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by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 17, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
proper talent evalution
and you do not get those guys. past failures from a different “regime” should not be sufficient reason to pass on a WR in the first round.
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Your comment...
is a very close minded one. Not to say that it’s done great but it hasn’t done as bad as the condescending nature of your comment is indicating that they have.
It's not close minded.
Tell me where I’m being close minded. I would not say that the current regime has done all that great, considering 2 consecutive top 10 picks.
It's close minded...
for two reasons.
1) First, you said “This regime really hasn’t done too great”. Which is a very limited comment because it doesn’t take into account all that has happened since Gene has become GM. I’m not going to sit here and go into details but I will say, that with the condition the team was in when Gene took over, I’d say he’s done a great job at rebuilding the talent base of this team.
2) Second, you said “Do you really want another top 10 draft pick?”. This goes back to your original comment about why we shouldn’t draft a receiver in the first round as if he’ll turn out like former first round receivers we’ve drafted, which would be the reason we’d have another Top 10 draft pick. Even if we drafted a receiver in the first round and he turns out like the players you mentioned, I doubt that could single handedly lead to us having a Top 10 pick the following year. Should we end up with another Top 10 pick in the 2013 draft, more than likely, there would be a myriad of things that would occur for that happen
Your above comment doesn’t help your case about your comment not being closed minded either because technically we didn’t have 2 consecutive Top 10 picks, unless you’re referring to the ‘09 and ’10 drafts. If you were referring to the ’10 and ’11 drafts, you’re wrong. I shouldn’t have to say this because I’m sure you know but we origainally had the 16th pick in last years draft, Gene just traded into the 10th spot to get Blaine. That shouldn’t qualify as having two consecutive Top 10 picks.
Well...
in 2009 Eugene Monroe has been the best LT of his draft class and arguably the second to fourth best Top 10 selection of that draft. The only player that is better than him is the #1 overall selection Matt Stafford and the only players you can make an argument for is B.J. Raji and Michael Crabtree. Take into consideration the importance of their relative positions and Eugene could be considered the best of those three. He also just finished last season with one of the highest pass blocker ratings of all tackles in the league. Lastly, add in that he still might not have reach his full potential yet and you get a damn good first round draft choice.
In 2010, while Alualu was a suprise selection, if you go back and look at the first 20 selections he was one of the better selections. While he has been hampered this previous seasons, he had one of the best rookie campaigns the year he was drafted. Many have argued that he had a better rookie season than Gerald McCoy, who was drafted with the third selection. Many will argue that he should’ve selected Jason Pierre-Paul but four teams bypassed him too, so I won’t hold it too much against him. Also JPP was a very raw product had the potential to bust as much as he had the chance to be successful. Alualu is a centerpeice of our defense and stands to become one of the better players as he continues to progress and, hopefully, gets over his nagging knee issue that has been holding him back. It was also found out that Alualu was rated higher on some teams draft board had orignally thought. It was rumored that Miami was going to take him at pick 12. That rumor can be substantiated by the fact that Miami traded that pick to the Chargers who traded up to get RB Ryan Mathews. With the #27 pick they received from the Chargers in that trade, the Dolphins selected Jared Odrick who is a player that is similar to Alualu. Alualu and Odrick were projected to both become defensive ends in a 3-4, which is what Alualu played in college. Of course Alualu was moved to DT to play next to Terrance. Gene probably felt forced to draft him at 10 or risk not getting him at all. If you look at the role Tyson fills on our team and combine with the rest of the players in the first round of that draft, it makes it an even better pick. Also, Tyson hasn’t reached his ceiling either which should account for something. As it stands, it wasn’t a ‘great’ pick but it was a ‘very good’ one, at least to me, that has the potential become ‘great’.
Lastly, it’s much too early to say anything concrete about Blaine one way or the other. I’ve made it known that I’m one who believes Gabbert is going to be an awesome QB in this league. Then factor in that by all accounts, no one thought he would fall that far and him being a Jaguar becomes that much sweeter. Could you imagine what our QB situation would’ve looked like had we not gotten the chance to draft him? I think rather we would’ve had the chance to get him or not, the Garrard situation would’ve happened anyways. Meaning that we would’ve been stuck with McCown and who knows as his backup, sitting here right now wondering which QB we were going to draft. More than likely, most fans would’ve demanded we be in the suck for Luck contest if Blaine wasn’t a Jaguar right now. All of this, is of course, speculation only but I still think he was a good selection.
2009
I just went over the draft. I didn’t even bother going any further after reading the names of some of the players we would have been better off, had we drafted them .You sure talk alot for someone who doesn’t know what they’re saying. I understand you’re a homer, but facts are facts. We went 5-11 because our roster was one of the worst in the league. Who do you think is resposible for the roster?
We went 5-11 because our passing game was terrible.
Otherwise the running game and defense were great and the special teams was… OK once we got rid of Turk.
There is talent on the roster, we just need a passing game.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 18, 2012 7:34 AM EST up reply actions
OK
I’ll play. The passing talent on our team is terrible. Two out of the last three, first round picks, factor greatly in the passing game. Who is responsible for putting the passing talent together? Answer: This regime.
So Eugene Monroe wasn't an elite LT in 2011?
If you don’t think so, you don’t know what you’re watching.
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by Adam Stites on Jan 18, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
It's like the joke,
I don’t have to outrun the lion…I just have to outrun you. In this case if he could keep the defender occupied, just a fraction longer than, let’s say Whimper, it’s all good. In other words, being the best pass blocker on a bad pass blocking line doesn’t make you elite.
You're right...
because, as you said, I’m a homer and I don’t know what I’m saying.
They haven't really gone after any early round WRs
so to bash their evaluation is kind of dumb
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 17, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
I think this pick makes alot of sense. Blackmon and Claiborne will be gone by then and the only picks that make sense at this sport is Kirkpatrick or one of the OT’s. CB is a big glaring hole even though the overall defense is pretty stellar. I know our offense is a bigger source of need but we may have fixed that quite a bit after free agency so drafting a CB is not a bad move.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 17, 2012 1:39 PM EST reply actions
why not at number 7?
So why does everyone think Justin Blackmon wont be their at pick# 7 for us? the first few teams really need a quarterback so why wont he be their at 7? i say we trade up a few spots if we have to and draft this guy. As far as our former first round wide out busts well look who was drafting for us as GM it was shack harris! he sucked badly so i dont think gene would draft a bust wide out so lets get this guy! Gabbert needs targets to throw too
by jagsfan30302011 on Jan 17, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions
not going to be Kirkpatrick
Have you watched his highlights, dude celebrates too much. Reminds me of R. Williams. And he isn’t the best speaker, not sure how much football knowledge he has as opposed to just being quick on the field. Is he a team captain? Has he shown good off field habits? In my opinion it will be either Jeffery or Floyd, which ever does better at the combine and is a good leader.
Floyd has attitude issues, on field effort issues and has been trouble although nothing serious. The dude has an all world body though. If either one would fully commit and show us that any concerns are no longer an issue, they both could be great at the next level. This is what combines and interviews are meant to address even if they aren’t perfect processes.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 17, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
This is classic
You bash one guy’s character because he “celebrates” too much but then you suggest a guy that is lazy, soft, and has about 3 Dui’s on his record. Wow, that is.. something.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 17, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
this could be one of the dumbest damn things I've read on this site
He celebrates and he can’t speak well. I DON’T WANT HIM ON THE ROAR OR TAKING MY ORDER AT BURRITO GALLERY! I WANT HIM LAYING OUT RECEIVERS AND DIVIDING THE FIELD IN HALF.
GOOD LORD!!!!!!!!!
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by Joe Fisher on Jan 17, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well here is the thing
couple his celebrating and supposed inability to speak. That means that when he delivers a hit on a receiver, he will celebrate and so then when he goes over to apologize to the receiver, his inability to speak might make the receiver think it is an insincere apology and somewhat an act of mocking by Kirkpatrick. That will only make him angrier which is a very bad thing.
Was that not obvious to you?!!
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Please tell me this was written as a joke?
I certainly hope so.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
lol
of course I was joking.
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I’ll tell you what, if we don’t draft a first round WR, we better take a whole lot of them from the top of the 2nd round on down.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 17, 2012 1:44 PM EST reply actions
No kidding
Gene HAS to make something happen, draft a WR at 7, trade back, pick one in the 2nd round. I don’t care. I like Kirkpatrick, a lot. But I just think it’s time we concentrate on scoring points.
our reicevers are the problem
So lets see here what was our number 1 problem this year? it was the wide outs! Come on im a huge Jaguars fan and i can see it! The old saying goes speed kills especially in the NFL if Blackmon is their after the first 3 picks why would you not trade up a few spots to draft a guy with that caliber of speed? I would! Gabertt needs targets to throw too
by jagsfan30302011 on Jan 17, 2012 2:05 PM EST reply actions
Don’t trade up for Blackmon, he’s not much better than who else is going to be selected in the 1st round. (Jeffery, Floyd, Wright)
If anything stay at 7 and get Jeffery (assuming he has a good combine), or trade back, get extra picks, and get your guy – Jeffery, Floyd, etc. That’s just my ideal situation.
Yeah but the thing with Jeffery is he scares me i heard he was out of shape and his work ethic isnt so great but i could be wrong. I am not a huge fan on Wright i watched film on him i mean he is fast i just question his catching as far as Floyd goes Gene will not draft him he has had some character issues. Check out black mon and SANA from Rutgers
by jagsfan30302011 on Jan 17, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
When Gene talks about “character” he talks about football character. Motivation, work ethic, passion for the game, team players. Not DUI’s like Floyd… I could see how this is misinterpreted though.
Anyway, if Floyd has a good combine I could see Jax taking him too, I think we’d all be happy with this!
Well character has to do with also how a player conducts themselves on and off the field! Floyd would in my opinion not be the right choice for our team. I believe we really have to go into this year draft with a huge splash and do like we did in last years draft when we traded up to get the QB of the future so why not do that this year again and really go after the best wide out in the draft? we should do that
by jagsfan30302011 on Jan 17, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
We honestly have no idea how the Jags will grade these WR’s out. Once we get some good leaks going, these mocks will get a bit more accurate. Well, we will begin to be in the ballpark anyways.lol
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 17, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
So if we take a wide out in the first round who would be the best fit all around for our Jaguars? help out Gabbert?
by jagsfan30302011 on Jan 17, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions
Free Agency
All this talk about WR is irrelevant until AFTER Free Agency.. Due to the “star power” at the WR posistion in FA this year , Dre K would be a perfect fit.. If the Jags got Garcon and Colston, or VJ and Wayne, or Steve Johnson and Bowe or any 2 of those guys, would we still be taking about Floyd / Jeffrey in the 1st round? -- Not Likely….I think Jags would benefit more from a WR or 2 in Free Agency…
is you beleive Jeffery or Floyd is BAP at 7
then you likely would still talk about them as potential choices. However, you might only look to grab one WR in free agency if you think that.
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no
they are just not BAP with or without character concerns.
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I agree.
We need help now, not “as soon as they learn the offense” or “as soon as they adapt to the speed of the NFL”.
There's nothing...
saying that a rookie wideout can’t come in and help out now. Victor Cruz, the UDFA, with the Giants came in and lit it up right away.
Victor cruz
isn’t a rookie ..he’s a first year player
by Mixontown Jordan-fanatic Drewski on Jan 17, 2012 6:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Didn't know that.
Thanks for correcting me. I was going use AJ Green as my initial example but with him being such a high draft pick, I was looking for someone that was drafted in a lower round (or in Cruz’s case, someone not drafted at all) to point out that just being a rookie receiver doesn’t disqualify you from coming in and helping right away.
A couple of guys who were solid contributors as rookies this year
Torrey Smith: REC 50 YDS 841 AVG 16.8 TDS 7
Randall Cobb: REC 25 YDS 375 AVG 15.0 TDS 1(just as a WR/excluding return duty)
Greg Little: REC 61 YDS 709 AVG 11.6 TDS 2
Denarius Moore: REC 33 YDS 618 AVG 18.7 TDS 5
Jeremy Kerley: REC 29 YDS 314 AVG 10.8 TDS 1(just as a WR/excluding “other”)
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Thanks for the info.
Man, Torrey Smith did the damn thing his rookie year. That’s impressive.
you totally overlooked Doug Baldwin
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REC 51 YDS788 AVG15.5 TDS 4 not to mention very valuable on special teams, blocked punt and he returned a punt for a TD if memory serves.
First rookie to lead his team in receiving.
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Those guys had decent stats
but most of them underperformed. Smith was a one trick pony that disappeared a lot. Cobb was more of a returner than WR. Little showed horrrrrrrible hands. Moore played well, but he was very inconsistent and was unable to stay healthy. Kerley was nothing to write home about.
Let’s throw this into the discussion
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There he goes!!!
Down the draft board… it’s Reggie Williams at Cornerback. Kiss him Goodbye as a Jags pick.
well not quite
thankfully this happened prior to combine and pro days. this is going to obviously come up in the interviews and depending on what gene and mularkey find out, he still might not fall much if at all.
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Kirkpatri gone to jail for marijuana……let’s go JEFFRIES
by orecic76 on Jan 17, 2012 5:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
HIS NAME IS ALSHON JEFFERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and Jeffery is simply put not worth the pick at this point. too many questions in his game and makeup to be worth that high of a pick.
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BREAKING NEWS ABOUT KIRKPATRICK
Kirkpatrick was arrested today! For illegal drugs (Marijuana or something). How dub this kid? Doing thios before the draft. Facepalm,
So he will NOT be a Jaguar – if he is guilty.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 17, 2012 6:12 PM EST reply actions
dub= dumb sorry for the typo
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 17, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think most teams couldn't careless about a little maryjane charge
takes him off the Jag radar but overall, he will be fine
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 17, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
In the retro draft review for 2011 we got downgraded from an initial C to a D.
Our drafting has to improve. Gene hasn’t had huge strikeouts, but he hasn’t had any huge hits either. We seemed to be mired in mediocrity. MJD won’t be around forever. He’s taken a lot of hits in his career. We need to improve the offense fast. I think free agency will have to be a huge factor here. I’d take a CB of the future with pick #7. Might as well strengthen your strength. Defense.
Are you referring...
to the Mel Kiper revised grades? If you are using one of the worse sources, in my opinion, for your draft grades. Not only that but it’s still way too early to grade last years draft. Players that did well could regress and players that didn’t do so well could breakout next year.
*Correction
If you are, you are using one one of the worse sources…
it is too early to retrospect
If in 2012 Gabbert shows major improvements and Shorts develops nicely, that D could just as quikly turn into an B+ or even an A. Got to give some time for an accurate retrospective grade.
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Well..
Since it takes about the years before you can accurately grade a draft class, I wouldn’t say we are mired in mediocrodity
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
everything about this says need pick
7 is too high for Kirkpatrick. I went back and downloaded the Bama/S. Carolina game and Kirkpatrick got manhandled by Jeffery. I don’t think his BAP at 7
That game was two years ago during Dre's first season as a starter.
If you don’t think he’s gotten better since then, you’re just fooling yourself.
Dre Kirkpatrick may be eliminated by Gene at number seven.
After he’s been arrested for possession of marijuana…
by They Don't Kassim Osgood on Jan 18, 2012 9:36 AM EST reply actions
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