Smart teams don't draft WRs before 15

by Mullayo on Jan 17, 2012 4:41 AM EST

I personally wouldn't draft a WR in the first round. I don't mind Blackmon but I don't trust Alshon Jeffrey and Malcolm

Floyd at all. I would much rather get a corner, o-line or pass rusher with this pick and get Kendall Wright, Nick Toon, Mohammed Sanu, or Dwight Jones with our 2nd and 3rd picks. The geek people at fantasy football metrics agree it isn't good form and use statistics to back it up.

http://fantasyfootballmetrics.com/Player_News/2011/NFL%20Draft/Draft_2011_WR%20Stat%20Ranking_3-1-11_2.0.htmit

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Do you agree it's dumb to waste our 7th pick on a wide reciever?

Yes statistics prove it every year

24 votes

Yes, this year the players aren't there

31 votes

No, drafting is a player by player basis

45 votes

No, this year we can get a stud at 7

25 votes

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i guess arizona, houston and detroit are dumb

they must be kicking themselves for picking those future hall of famers

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 17, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions

Those teams hit the lotto

I agree with post, First round is a huge gamble for WR.

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by MadKow on Jan 17, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions

so is every position

id like to see a breakdown of OT and CB before i judge anything

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 17, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions

I disagree with "so is every position"

OT that excels at pass/ run blocking = rare = 1st round
DE that excels at run stuffing/pass rush= rare = 1st round
CB true shutdown corner = first round

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by MadKow on Jan 17, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions

that doesnt mean anything?

there are offensive lineman taken in the first round every year that turn out to be crap
same thing with DE and corner

like i said id like to see a breakdown before a judgment should be made

im sure qb is the most risky statistically to take in the first but does that mean they shouldnt be taken that high?

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 17, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions

I'm sorry I bow to your Intellect

My opinion is wrong and yours is right. Why did I bother to post. Should of just waited for you to tell me what was correct.

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by MadKow on Jan 17, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions

you posted on MY comment saying i was wrong; by saying a post i found fault in; was right

and give no substantial backing to dispute any of my claims

dont call me wrong then not put any time or effort into proving it lol
im probably wrong because i didnt do any research as far as OT and CB but you could prove it if you took 5 minutes out of the day to prove it. otherwise im not going to say “yeah, you got a point there”

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 17, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions

I didnt say you were wrong

I said I disagree. There’s a big difference. I don’t claim my opinions as facts. They are opinions.

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by MadKow on Jan 17, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions

my opinion is no more correct than yours

but on a post like this where opinions can be backed with numbers with just 5 minutes out of the day
do it. opinions are ever evolving and new info can change them

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 17, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions

Again I bow to your superior intellect.

I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong.

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by MadKow on Jan 17, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions

im done with this

cuz i dont even know what this convo is about anymore

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 17, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions

woo hoo I win lol

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by MadKow on Jan 17, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions

Almost all first round OTs start

The ones that fail wind up as guards and start anyway (see Robert Gallery).

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by Brian Levenson on Jan 17, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions

not always correct

see alex barron tony ugoh and soon to be jason smith

its more likely that a bad OT can be slid to guard to be more effective but that doesnt mean they are good players or good selections

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 17, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions

Failed receivers have a second life too

They end up on our roster…Robiskie, Price, West, MSW

What could of happened; did.

by Mullayo on Jan 17, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Exactly what I was going to write

I even think it’s not too soon to say Atlanta and Cincinnati. This year’s crop is just not as impressive. I think we go CB or OL.

by CheapSeat on Jan 17, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions

Detroit

It took Detroit SEVERAL tries to get it right… Not that great of an example.

Yes Megatron is awesome, but can you say Mike Williams(#10 overall)? Roy Williams(#7 overall)? Charles Rogers (#2 overall)?

by Sourwine on Jan 17, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions

megatron makes up for all those guys. but yea, lots of trial & error

by miblue on Jan 18, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions

Smart teams evaluate talent and draft who the feel are the best players regardless of position

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 17, 2012 10:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs

Talent vs Draft position

I totally agree with this.

A player shouldn’t become a first rounder because they’re the best WR in that year’s draft class. They become a first rounder because a team picks them in the first round based on their current talent and potential for the future.

It’s hard to look at talent objectively because each team has weakness that need to be shored up, and you figure that the “best X in the draft class” will be better than what you currently have. That’s obviously not always the case.

So yes, Blackmon is probably better than our current receivers, but he’s not a Megatron or Andre Johnson (just based on measureables). Each team’s evaluation will determine if he can fill their need adequately.

by mab0270 on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM EST reply actions

Reggie wayne didn't have great measurables either.

I’d say he’ s been productive tho.

by caneman4 on Jan 18, 2012 11:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Interesting article..

I wonder what this years WR’s are rated in there system.

by bdk790 on Jan 17, 2012 1:21 PM EST reply actions

Yeah I'm waiting on that too

What could of happened; did.

by Mullayo on Jan 17, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions

Blackmon and Jeffery aren’t on par with AJ Green and Julio Jones IMO.I’m not saying they won’t make it in the NFL but I don’t see them as being as talented. I would prefer to take some of the other WR’s later in the first or at the top of the 2nd. I really like Sanu and Kendall Wright.

by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 17, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions

me too.

Wright, Sanu, Toon, maybe Quick

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by Mullayo on Jan 17, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t know what everyone sees in Toon.

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by Alfie Crow on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I agree 100%

he has nice size but that is about it. Maybe you can say his hands are decent. But, he lacks speed, athleticism, durability. Not so sure what about him is so appealing.

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by Jagsrok9008 on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions

As a whole I find it hard to make a generalization like that

Lions were stupid for taking Calvin Johnson @ 2?! Texans and Cardinals for going Andre Johnson and Fitzgerald (respectively) @ 3? Even AJ Green could have an argument made for him as being worth the pick @ 4 that Cincy used on him.

You need to assess the players on an individual to individual basis and you might find a WR that it would be incredibly smart for a team to pick in the top 15

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by Jagsrok9008 on Jan 17, 2012 2:40 PM EST reply actions

still hilarious that jamarcus russell got drafted ahead of calvin

by miblue on Jan 18, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions

We have never drafted a good receiver

Its, true Jimmy Smith was signed. Our first round picks in past NFL drafts (WR) were Matt Jones, Reggie Williams and R.Jay Soward, we need to grab our Future star Receiver if we want Gabbert to develop into out franchise QB

by TheonlyJagsfaninSD on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions

what u all think?

I think we should totally draft a wide receiver first round i mean you are either going to get it right or your going to fail so if just blackmon is their or jeffery u take them and help gabbert out! I mean dont get me wrong if a great pass rusher is their then u take that but our JAGUARS really need a big threat receiver especially with how murlarkey likes to throw the ball and it would help out MJD with 8 men in the box and imagine how much that would open the offense up! Draft a wide out

by jagsfan30302011 on Jan 18, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions

Well we will not draft CB Dre from alabama he has now been arrested! We dont need anymore guys like reggie williams and matt jones on this team!

by jagsfan30302011 on Jan 18, 2012 1:39 PM EST reply actions

Yeah.

That was terrible when Rggie set the WR record for TDs in a season. (10)

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by JPQ! on Jan 18, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions

Actually...

It was terrible. The rest of his stats for the season was 38 catches, 629 yards, and 3 fumbles to go with his 10 touchdowns. I wouldn’t exactly call that top 10 worthy.

He got lucky and scored a bunch of touchdowns, but I’d put Jimmy Smith’s worst season (other than the inaugural one where he hardly played) with the Jags up against Reggie’s whopping 10 touchdowns any day.

by Sourwine on Jan 19, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions

Hungry for the deeeep

I am not worried how we do it but I want to see bookends Jeffery and Quick with Thomas underneath. I long for the goodold days. That is all gooo Jaggggs

by poppateal on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions

I could get on board with that (Jeffery and Quick)

the only issue is, Rookies rarely produce right away, especially WRs, so that would be a little bit of a gamble to rest the success of the passing game on their shoulders.

….And Thomas is garbage.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions