Kirkpatrick arrested for marijuana possession
by Brian Levenson on Jan 17, 2012 4:05 PM EST
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PrintThe odds that the Jaguars will draft Dre Kirkpatrick have just fallen. Profootballfocus tweeted that captain Kirk was arrested for possession of marijuana. An arrest, especially one for a drug that makes you compulsively eat and less willing to work is not a sign of a high-character player. Gene Smith has been serious about adding players of of high moral content to the team and he has absolutely removed talented players from his board simply for personality reasons.
This doesn't necessarily mean that Kirkpatrick is out of the running altogether, but I'm gonna start checking to see what other names are out there...
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Dre, dre, dre, dre....
Common man. Pot’s nice but not nicer than the NFL get your act together.
There goes one of the 2 guys I wanted.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/17/likely-first-round-pick-dre-kirkpatrick-arrested-for-marijuana-possession/
WHAT A FU**ING IDIOT…we should still draft him.
"So what we get drunk
So what we smoke weed
We’re just having fun
We don’t care who sees"
My motto ^
Hey don’t judge. Marijuana also helps people focus ;)
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very well said lol
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by montanajagsfan on Jan 17, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A man who has no regard for the law or him self will not have one for this team or city, thanks but no thanks!
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This will just lead into politics and me getting banned...
…so lets just say I disagree.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 17, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Regardless of your political beleifs is it still not the law?
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does that law go counter to our governing documents?
just saying.
but it is against the law, in the state which he was arrested.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Correct it's against the law,
but I’m sure you have broken the law before. The law is set in place by the government, and…lets not get into this.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 17, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I would love to get into it
Let us even go so far as to ignore the legal implications of marijuana usage/possession. Marijuana is a drug that has many negative effects, and essentially no positive ones(at least that I can think of for a collegiate football player not being prescribed medicinal marijuana).
By being caught with weed(which likely indicates an intent to ingest it in some capacity) reveals a lack of discipline on the part of the collegiate football player. It is not something to just ignore when you are going to potentially spend the 7th overall pick on the guy and potentially commit ~10 million dollars to that individual.
I am sure Kirkpatrick will be grilled about this in the interview process, and for all we know this will not impact his draft stock. However, to go on and say that the marijuana possession charges should be overlooked in this draft process is just wrong!
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Depending on how the interview goes
I’d still draft him, just because he gets caught once with it, doesn’t mean he won’t e a great player. We don’t know he stoey
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 17, 2012 5:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So would I
but the interview is going to be ULTRA-HUGE now.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
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To mention a few
-Marijuana contains more carcinogens than tobacco so the cancer risk is definitely there.
-Short term effects such as Distorted perception, loss of coordination, increased heart rate/reduced blood pressure —> these could prove to be quite negative given specific situations such as needing to drive somewhere or make some sort of crucial decision
-delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol(“active ingredient” of weed) impairs one’s immune system from properly combating bacteria and disease
-not sure if this is proven, but the whole “it is a gateway drug” thing is a massive negative effect of weed(assuming it is true)
I can go on, or you can just Google it. a lot of studies have been done, and weed has many negative effects. And they have a much greater range of impacts on the human body than does tobacco(excluding the death aspect o cigarettes, which is not there per-say for marijuana)
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actually
the death aspect is per-say applicable because of the possibility of cancer due to higher carcinogen content.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
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some words i just cannot spell
and you found one
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
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or
being educated throughout middle school and high school about drugs and why it is not worth doing them.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
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Seriously?
You’re taking a page from the “Drug Free America” group that peddles there “information” to schools?
Did you know that Drug Free America #1 contributer is the pharmaceutical industry, the tobacco industry is right behind them.
The only reason they put money into these programs is to guide you away from drugs they can’t patent and make money on, i.e marijuana.
that might be true
except that I am listing FACTS. I couldn’t give a damn who tell me these facts, but there have been actual studies conducted by “independent” researchers that have indicated the facts I listed to in fact be true. It is not like I am going around listing things that are made up by these companies. I am listing facts about the harms of marijuana, and if you do not want to believe them, be my guest, but do not come back to me when you realize I am not spewing nonsense!!
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
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But if these "facts" come from studies
That are funded by industries(pharmaceuticals) that stand to lose money if marijuana were to replace the drug they currently sell, how can they be trusted?
by Jagtastic on Jan 18, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
very easy
while it is very hard to trust the accuracy of statistics and studies performed in the country, you do realize that it is kind of hard to fudge something like this up. It is not like the results returned are borderline. the studies are overwhelming for the most part, and unless you are straight out lying and not “massaging” the results, the conclusions are more than likely accurate. A simple understanding of the statistics behind the studies and it should become apparent that while the results they claim might not be AS extreme as they say, the results are actually not false.
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I linked the Schaffer Report below
Please read it. It’s broken down very nicely. This study was funded by the US Government.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/nc/ncmenu.htm
Read up
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/01/11/marijuana-doesnt-appear-to-harm-lung-function-study-finds/
I got it from Fox News, as conservative as it gets.
ok you got me
it does not do the same harm to the lungs as tobacco. but it certainly does more harm in other areas.
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I'm not trying to "get you"
I’m just asking that you open your thinking a bit before you condemn a young man eternally on something before knowing all the facts.
open my thinking to what
marijuana is a more harmful drug than people want to admit. sure it has it uses, and frankly I am not per se opposed to its’ legalization, but the truth is that it is not as harm-free as people want to admit.
Alcohol for anyone over 21 is legal, but if a person went around getting drunk all the time, I would question that person’s character and be hesitant, if he was an NFL prospect, to draft him so high and commit that much money to him.
Marijuana, unlike alcohol can have more adverse effects in small amounts than alcohol. One joint smoked is enough to cause adverse effects. Therefore, the threshold by which it is appropriate to question a prospect is one joint. Now I cannot be certain Kirkpatrick was smoking the weed, but possession likely implies intent to consume.
Let me now present an entirely different approach to what was wrong with what he did. He violated the law. Whether you think the law is right or wrong, it is a law, and it is not meant to be broken. An NFL prospect caught breaking a law such as this one, immediately raises a red flag. If Andrew Luck was arrested for beating up his girlfriend, that would be a red flag for me. how much it drops his draft stock is TBD, but it would. Kirkpatrick violated a law and that is a red flag plain and simple.
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You're right
The law is the law and we should never question it.
Our founders should have never rebelled against England because they totally broke the law.
Breaking the law
To smoke weed, is juvenile and sad. Breaking the law of a foreign power that didn’t allow us to govern ourselves and forced us to do ridiculous things is understandable in historical hindsight. It is a noble thing our founders did to create a democracy and start a new nation.
Clearly, nation-building and marijuana are not on remotely close levels…
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by TheTealDeal on Jan 18, 2012 5:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There wasnt any napkins left
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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by TheTealDeal on Jan 18, 2012 8:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
actually,
many of the founders rebelled because they didn’t agree with the tax laws. That’s a relatively small law compared to the stability and economic investments the British government was putting into our young colonies.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Taxes were the start of rebellious feelings in the colonies, it then was taxation without representation and virtual representation, it then led to creating a new country.
The tax laws pissed us off because we were pretty independent-minded. So imo we broke the “law” in order to create a new country, not to get new tax laws.
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by TheTealDeal on Jan 18, 2012 8:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the point being,
our disenfranchisement with our government emerged from tax laws, which many of our founders didn’t pay, which is breaking the law ultimately breaking the law isn’t inherently good or bad, the premise for the law has more to do with it.
The government doing something which is wildly unpopular in the eyes of the citizens and leads to unrest and/or rebelling (you could state that as the basis for the American revolution, you could also say that’s the basis for the end to marijuana prohibition at it’s core)
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
by TmannZOU on Jan 18, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
AND
when the colonies banded together (after we won), they refused to accept the federal governments ability to tax it’s citizens (until the Articles of Confederation were thrown out and adopted for the Constitution) so they KINDA were rebelling to get new tax laws…
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Geoge Washington
grew hemp at Mt. Vernon.
Abraham Lincoln is quoted as saying " Two of my favorite things is sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp and playing my Hohner harmonica."
Expand your thinking. Just because something is the law doesn’t make it just or make it right.
How about the Schaffer Report?
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/nc/ncmenu.htm
This is the study that President Nixon established to find the damaging effects of marijuana. The only study to be funded by the US Govt.( to my knowledge).
Did he use the information from the study? No, of course he didn’t because the study recommended legalization and regulation. He just went on to outlaw pot and start the “War on Drugs” because all he wanted was the hippies to stop whining about Vietnam.
And how many NFL Players are known
to smoke cigarettes ?
Actually that question was asked on the O-Zone
O-man says cigarette smoking isn’t apart of the NFL culture nowadays.
That was my point
The fact that smoking cigarettes harms your lungs is irrelevant since nobody is smoking them.
not saying he's not an idiot for having it
but weed has zero negative effects on the body and actually has been shown to reduce and fight cancerous tumors
if you are dumb enough to
1. do it in the first place with the combine and nfl draft coming up
2. get caught
you are too dumb for me to want you on the jags lol
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 17, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta make the paper...LOL
maybe it’s his only steady income? Marijuana makes him play better? I have a friend who plays football with us high, and he jumps 3 feet in the air, and makes a 40 yard one handed catch. He’s good when under the influence, but only decent when sober.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 17, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Doesnt justify
Still doesnt make it right. If you were about to make MILLIONS of dollars would you sacrfice a little high feeling that last for about an hour over the money. Think long and hard. He is just stupid and hanging around the wrong people. Your friends probably aint a Top 10 draft talent. Just sayin…
by Deadbird Rugby on Jan 17, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
Maybe, something happened in his life, and he needs something to make him feel better…
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 17, 2012 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Try church.
Or helping someone less fortunate than him. That’s a nice, natural high.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
lol...
…weed is natural…making it a natural high…
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 17, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
"he needs something to make him feel better"
Sad, sad statement right there. That one simple philosophy is so destructive.
"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Winston Churchill
by Conservative on Jan 17, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
because winning a National Championship and being a projected top ten pick in the NFL is something to get all choked up about.
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your firend might also play better on steroids
would you totally be fine if Kirkpatrick was shown to be a big steroid user?!
The fact is that there are rules that are out there and if you go ahead and break them that indicates a lack of character and discipline and frankly that is going to lead to major issues in the long run.
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hey Mike Schmidt
has openly said he couldn’t ever play a game without his greenies… and he’s in the hall of fame…
Shake and Bake
So, what you're saying is:
playing while high = hall of fame career?
Not sure it works out hat way everytime.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
That's a great motto to live by, Rhett.
I hope you make it to adulthood so you can look back and realize how ridiculous it is.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
How many times has this happened now?
Seems like every year a first rd db gets caught before the draft
by caneman4 on Jan 17, 2012 5:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If he falls
If he is still there 2nd round because of a little weed, I see the Jaguars making a move to get him. He is still a Top 10 talent. All he needs is a little PRIMETIME pep-talk and he is good.
I would guarantee
if you randomly drug tested all Jaguars players during the offseason, half of them probably wouldn’t pass.
Shake and Bake
It's also pretty
well known that random drug test aren’t that random in the NFL, most teams don’t want to see players suspended so they give their players enough notice so they can pass the test
Shake and Bake
If im not misstaken, its not the team,
That administers the test its the league.
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Top 10 draft picks dont need it
It’s a crutch for people and its a vice. It’s not good at all as people get killed by those who distribute it and its just horrible.
The best don’t need illegal substances for a crutch or for competitive advantage. If you do need it to play well, then obvious you aren’t the best.
And I don’t settle for anything other than the best at the 7th pick
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by TheTealDeal on Jan 17, 2012 5:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I say draft him any way.
I get all the reasons why what he did is stupid and wrong, but the sad fact of the matter is the kid can ball out. He is young and made a mistake. I have made a few mistakes in my life, and learned from them. Hopefully he will do the same.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
hopefully its just a dumb mistake
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by TheTealDeal on Jan 17, 2012 5:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed.
I would still draft him – if this is a one time offense. If he has a history that we discover, then no.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Jimmy smith had these type of problems
He might not get inducted into the ring of honor or hall of fame, partially due to it. And that sucks because he was my favorite player
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by TheTealDeal on Jan 17, 2012 8:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sorry
but the question isnt weather or not you would draft him, but would gene? i think not
so.....
and what if he did it by shooting up on heroin? does that suddenly make it fine and dandy?
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I wouldn't know
never put the stuff in my body
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by Jagsrok9008 on Jan 17, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Guess we'll just have to trade back & draft him @ 11 instead...
In the face of adversity, what you do from then on dictates who you really are...
He just jumped up on the Bengals board.
He is gonna room on the road with Jerome Simpson.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
i smoke trees everyday,
with that said i wouldnt if my nfl draft stock was on the line. that 10 dollar nlunt just cost him a few big ones
by crash904 on Jan 17, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Trading down is starting to look more and more real
by youngnixx88788 on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 PM EST reply actions
because...
any players looking more worth trading up for?! Does not matter how bad you want to trade down if no one wants to trade up.
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by Jagsrok9008 on Jan 17, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it baffles me
how much people plan to trade down, and know exactly which team would want to trade up without regards to their boards.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Dont agree
Not a fan of people arbitrarilly thinking we can trade back, but if they have a reasonable idea, there guess is as good as anyones. If the eagles let go of DJax, I think with 2 2nd round picks they may trade up to us before a couple of wr needy teams if they’re board has anyone above Blackmon at WR. Or maybe blackmon falls, who knows.
What an Idiot
All the talent in the wonder doesn’t override stupid.
Take stock in your lives, but leave your livestock alone
well, anyone who has used drugs,
knows that “dope” is usually meth.
go ask someone on the corner for dope and see if you get buds.
Just because educators and law makers call a drug one slang word, doesn’t make it accurate slang.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Im just saying
go score some dope and tell me which drug it is.
I’ve never met someone who sells drugs who would consider marijuana “dope”
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Its a generational thing
I dont even think meth existed when people started calling pot dope.
He is a fool....
I personally do not consider most vices a big problem until they become more important to an individual than the truly important things in life. This num-nut obviously feels that getting high is more important than his NFL career. If the NFL was smart, they would all band together and not draft this dumbass. That might send a message to the other young athletes that it is not worth doing. of course, that will not happen, because we have become a society of non-accountability. I am with Gene in avoiding this guy like the plague!
Pot= The Plague?
A young man should never have a chance at his dream because he decided he wanted to try some pot? Obama smoked it, Bush smoked it, Clinton inhaled it.
I guess America should have gotten together and kept all those guys from becoming president.
Actually
I believe Clinton said he “didn’t inhale” ;-)
hey didn't
Jimmy Carter and Willy Nelson smoke a joint on the roof of the White House?
Shake and Bake
I dont care who you are
If willie says smoke, you smoke.
by Mr.Awesome on Jan 18, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
and Obama said
“that’s the point”
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
If any of those candidates were arrested for it three months before election day...
I think it would’ve been a different story, yeah?
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by Adam Stites on Jan 18, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure
Obviously it’s two different situations. Probably not a good comparison on my part.
It doesn’t matter what you do in your past when you run for office because you can pass them off as “youthful transgressions”. In the NFL you have far less time to judge a person and project the outcome of said individual.
Yes, he shouldn’t have been caught with it before the draft. That was poor judgment on his part. However, to act as if this event will define him as a player and person is foolish.
Lawerence Taylor abused cocaine throughout his career and anybody would take him on their team in a heartbeat. Hell, most fans would supply him the cocaine.
The point is......
his judgement is horrible. He did it in a way and at a time that he got caught WHEN IT MEANT EVERYTHING!
I think
Matt Jones and Dre were lightnin it up
by TheonlyJagsfaninSD on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 AM EST reply actions
We should all ask ourselfs
WWTTD?
What would Tim Tebow do?
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Tebow is doing blow off a hookers ass
Take stock in your lives, but leave your livestock alone
by MadKow on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Its not necessarily the drugs that will hurt his stock
but the stupidity of doing it at this time, knowlingly being in the spotlight of the most important job interview of his life. And if it comes down to the use, you cannot play if you test positive so why would you spend a #7 pick on a player who is stupid and irresponsible enough to do it right before applying to get into the league let alone the probability of it once in the league when some of the pressure is off which could later lead to positive tests, suspensions and being let go (Hurd)
Please Don't Waste a High Draft Choice on Kirkpatrick
He seems to be in the same mold as R.J. Soward and Matt Jones. We should not take a chance on him with a high draft choice and big money. He would be a risky investment. His lack of judgment and self-discipline are appalling. If he’s still around later in the draft, you could justify the chance because of the smaller investment. Why take the chance when there are other players available without this problem?
Marijuanna is dangerous? Lol
Marijuanna has never harmed anyone physically, unless it because they gained weight or smoked more ciggs. If you dont know much about drugs, docus your efforts on demonizing oxycodone, which is the most evil drug in america today. Seriously, do your research.
Marijuanna can have a mental affect, depending onthe user. Problem is, since it doesnt harm you physically, some people go to excess with it, when in fact anything handled without moderation is unhealthy, especially as a mental crutch. Some people are examples of it being a “gateway”, others are qite the opposite.
Lets be honest, do we want a CB whos a pothead? Im a legalization enthusiast, but theres a time and place for things. If guy couldn’t maintain his discipline 2 months away from being a top10 pick, i dont want him on my team.
agreed, the fact
that he was too stupid to realize he shouldn’t have bud on him says a lot, however smoking pot is not that bad for you. In fact its less dangerous than alcohol
Agreed.
Its more healthy than frozen pizza…which will actually kill you if you eat it as much as many healthy people smoke pot. But theres a big difference between dangerous and unhealthy. Pot is not dangerous; but depending on the person it can be very unhealthy in a variety of ways…decision making, money handling, food intake, focus motivation. Some people can actually move on to the harder stuff, but I think the variables make it impossible to say for sure. Not all people can be functional lol.
And by decision making
Im refering to what cat williams would call, “the f* its”
OK... don't understand
If marijuana can have a mental effect, then it most certainly can have physical effects due to the mental issues you said it can have.
Using that logic, alcohol doesn’t have a physical effect, just a mental one… but… drunk driving kills plenty o’people. Are you saying that someone high on weed has never caused an accident (directly or incidental)?? So, I turn it back to you to do your research.
I’m not a legalization enthusiast because I’ve seen the horrible things it has done to members of my own family, but legalizing it doesn’t bother me. Also agree that if he couldn’t wait until well after he actually got drafted, made it thru camps, and was signed to a nice contract, then I wouldn’t want him either.
Sean
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The issues it caused for you
Are the issues i refer to, and im sorry you had issues of the sorts. That being said, alcohol causes heavy amounts of damage all over your body over time, especially if youre a heavy drinker, and i have seen what drinkingncan do to a family, personally. In no way do i take significance from what you experienced, but in my life i have known a lot smokers and alcoholics, an more than 9/10 times alcohol, both physically and mentally, was astronomically more dangerous. Take a 70 y/o stoner, cigg smoker, and alcoholic and line em up next to eachother. Bet the stoner looks like hes not only in the best health, but has a much more positive attitude, as well.
Ive actually done quite a bit of research as i petitioned for my idiot friend to not get kicked out of the marines when he pissed dirty, and helped him put together a power point presentation on exactly weed vs alcohol.
If youve never used marijuanna, you dont exactly get that invinsible feeling like you do when youre drunk. You dont make the decision to say f it and drive if you cant. You dont get violent, unless youre a violent person already as it is. You dont suddenly decide to cheat on your girl friend or wife. You dont wake up the next day realizing you have no idea what yoy did last night. You dont lose control of yourself or decision making. These are the mental aspects of alcohol. Physically, with weed you dont destroy your liver, kidneys, cause diabetes, gerd, diverticulosis, bladder cancer, pancreaitis, among many other rarer-diseases. Marijuanna doesnt even contain cancer causing irritants – it feels heavy but its chemical free.
Read my comment to pg above for the mental issues which im referring to. Im sure there are more examples, but u get th idea
Understood. Appreciate the time for the reply.
I suppose we’ll agree to disagree on your statement of “Marijuana has never harmed anyone physically…” I think you meant just the act of smoking, not what it has caused afterwards in the form of accidents of any sort.
Sean
Pax Armis Acquiritur
The act of smoking
Is exactly what i meant. Sorry for the confusion.
Agree to disagree :)
This has to be
some of the funniest comments ive ever seen. Now, while I am prolegalization, I dont think that drafting someone who makes such a dumb decision would be the smartest thing to do. Speaking from experience though, sometimes getting caught reveals to yourself how dumb the decisions you were making are. How many millions it costed him; I was willing to quit for a $15/hr job, for millions that is a no brainer. He will be put through the wringer about it during the interview process to see if that is the case with him. And maybe as some has said it was a lapse in judgement.
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