2012 Senior Bowl Open Thread
The 2012 Senior Bowl game is today, and it will feature some of the top talent in the 2012 NFL Draft. Discuss the game here.
Game time/date: 4:00 p.m. ET, Saturday, Jan. 28, 2012
Location: Ladd-Peebles Stadium, Mobile, Ala.
TV: NFL Network
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I wouldn't mind drafting him
in the second round to play RT, assuming you could depend on him keeping his weight down. Still, I don’t think Gene would draft him. Just not his type of offensive lineman.
Wilson looks real bad
missed about 4 throws, then a pick
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 4:33 PM EST reply actions
my boy criner is looking fair
not to good but other than him and joe adams i see nobody thats really impressive at the wide out position
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yeah the qbs yesterday
played extremely well……
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 29, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
Couples
Is a guy I want to fall in love with, but I just don’t see the production
hes not that good
hes pretty good but he isnt amazing
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 28, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
The guy completely shut down an entire series in three plays. Stuffed runs. Took up throwing lanes and broke up passes.
What does he need to do to be “impressive”? Sack on every play?
by Alfie Crow on Jan 28, 2012 6:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
on one of those plays he beat a piss poor attempt at a cut
and the stuffed run the running back ran into. hes GOOD but hes not GREAT
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 28, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
mario williams...
coples is ray edwards. big physical LE good against the run and has some pass rushing, but who would take ray edwards in the top 10?
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 28, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
youre wrong
ray edwards in college-36 games, 18 starts-16
quinton coples in college-50 games, 26 starts-24 sacks
ray edwards in college-64 273
quinton coples in college 66 281
ray edwars runs a 4.8
Coples will run a 4.7-4.8
tell me again how they arent comparable?
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 29, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
are you saying
games/sack ratio, 40-time, and height/weight are all there is to determining what kind of player someone is.
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when you take into account that
and their play style from watching both of them play then yeah
when litereally almost every attribute on and off the field is similar its safe to compare them
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 29, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
well I think the issue is that they do not have similar styles of play so that is the clincher in why the comparison is not good.
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every game ive watched of either of them ive seen similaritys
edwards is quicker and coples is stronger but other than that i see a similar player much more than coples/julius peppers like everybody is saying
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 29, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
who whould you rather have in the second round. Marvin Jones, Marvin Mcnutt, Gerrel Robinson or Brian Quick
Out of the four
I’d go Quick before McNutt in the 2nd round. Would wait til the 4th round or so to pick Jones or Robinson. I’d have Marvin Jones a little ahead of Robinson right now.
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Jags needs speed at WR and he's got some wheels
by BASE_D_JAGSS on Jan 28, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Jags have speed at WR
They need WRs who can get separation and have good hands
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
They do
Every WR on the team’s roster outside of Robiskie, runs a 4.4 or better.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Jarred Dillard
Does not run a 4.4. Osgood certainly doesn’t. Shorts isn’t considered a burner either. This only guy who has any type of 2nd gear is Mike Thomas, and he’s more quick than fast.
BTW, it’s alot more to football speed than 40 time. See Matt Jones
by BASE_D_JAGSS on Jan 28, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Osgood actually runs a 4.3, and doesn't even really play WR
Thomas is a 4.4 guy as is Shorts. And your right I missed one, Dillard isn’t a 4.4 guy either.
BTW, it’s alot more to football speed than 40 time. See Matt Jones
Really??? then why this comment:
Jags needs speed at WR and he’s got some wheels
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Because the game isn't played in straight lines...
and consider acceleration as well, that also makes up football speed. I’m not going into this any further, I’m not sure it’ll solve anything if I do.
by BASE_D_JAGSS on Jan 28, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I would probably take Mcnutt
I like Quick but I think Mcnutt is not as fast but much more polished. Jones and Robinson are more of later round guys but I’d take either or even both.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Whats you guys opinion on Vinny Curry is he worth a second round pick is he a 43 DE or a 34 linebacker or can he do both
hes a good player
best pass rushing ability in the draft IMO outside of maybe whitney mercilus
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 28, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
without a doubt
but hes not 6’6 so no ones gonna talk about him lol
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 28, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Best pure
pass rusher is probably Nick Perry. Curry kind of reminds me of our own Jeremy Mincey. Both have similar size and motors with tighter ankles. I think like Mincey, I think it will take Curry a few years to develop, so he can learn how to use his hands and gain more savvy.
I'm starting to think that joe adams is going to be the reason why
mike thomas is going to either get traded or cut this offseason.
because him and thomas are the same same base on the pecking order of the offense
but i think joe adams has better hands and much more explosive than mike thomas. I just think he’s more dangerous in space, can get more seperation and therefore, with gene smith on a rampage to fix the receiver’s group this offseason he is going to want to draft more playmakers.
by leopold332002 on Jan 28, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
yes he did but when you have a owner who's worth over 3 billion dollars
he can easily cut a plaer who we only gave a 9 million garauteed extension especially if we can upgrade the position.
by leopold332002 on Jan 28, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
because we had a former owner who signed off on decisions base on his emotions
instead of letting the situation play out. I will always love wayne weaver and his loyalty to the city of Jacksonville but he has made some questionable decisions during his tenure as a owner.
by leopold332002 on Jan 28, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
yep but wayne weaver signed off on it
he could’ve told gene to wait until the season was over to evaluation him from a financial standpoint.
by leopold332002 on Jan 28, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Does anybody think Micheal Egnew will fall in the fourth round and if he does should we get him, I think so
me too, if blaine's our guy lets get people who can i don't know catch his dam passes. lol.
by leopold332002 on Jan 28, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think that would be a good pick up
I could also get on board with Fleener in the 3rd, if we are talking TEs
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Let's avoid drafting
non-special TE’s until the third day, because there is depth and very little difference after the first couple TE’s in every draft.
2 best offensive players on the field that game were
joe adams and juron criner hands down
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I agree
Adams looks good running routes plus he has the speed to go deep, I think he would be great in the slot can’t really see him outside though.
Criner, as stated above, will be a steal.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
unfortunately i think criner played himself out of steal status
he was the most impressive wide out at the senior bowl(other than adams) i wouldnt be suprised if he was a second or third round pick now
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 28, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
the entire week of the senior bowl that is
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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 28, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I think people will still be a little hesitant because of his time at Arizona
But I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a 2nd or 3rd round pick either
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Criner was never going to be a “steal”.
by Alfie Crow on Jan 28, 2012 7:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If I had to draft anybody from this bowl it would e: Joe Adams, Isiah Pead, Vinny Curry and Quick.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jan 28, 2012 7:11 PM EST reply actions
I would slow down
on Quick. I’d prefer someone that can quickly assimilate, and Quick needs to develop a lot.
He has great open feild jukes and overall lateral quickness
Wouldnt mind him but now we would have to take him probably in the 3rd so I dont think we’ll bother
How was vinny Curry?
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by TheTealDeal on Jan 28, 2012 10:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He didn't jump out at you?
He was making plays just about all day
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
2 tackles (granted it was on QB's behind the los)
one of which was a gift. I’m not hating. He’s one of my fav’s, he just didn’t have the day Coples did.
Coples
I came into this week with a lower opinion on Coples skillset. That has completely changes. He was impressive.
by Mr. Brownstone on Jan 28, 2012 11:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions

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