Post-Senior Bowl Jaguars Mock Draft
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1. Quinton Coples DE North Carolina - He impressed me at the senior bowl, and his stock is definitely rising, and I believe it will continue to rise, despite him being inconsistent during his 2011 season. I feel likes he's going to be a Justin Smith(49ers) type of DE during his whole career. We all know he's not an elite pass rusher, he's solid, and stout against the run. With a couple of seasons with Joe Cullen he will probably be a good pass rusher. He won't be that guy that'll get over 10 sacks a season, he'll be like Justin Smith, and get about 6-9 sacks a season. Hopefully we would have already signed a top defensive end free agent, like Cliff Avril, Robert Mathis, or Mario Williams. Because Coples with any of these guys across from him, will make a great defensive line, and we'll probably get about 18-20 sacks just from our starting ends.
2. Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina - Some think he's the next Charles Woodson. This pick was going to be Brandon Boykin from Georgia, but his size turns me away. Boykin is excellent in coverage, but can't press at all. Gilmore has great size, at 6'1" 190 lbs, he's great in man coverage, and natural in zone. He has great instincts and is a smart guy(SEC all-academic). He's also a good tackler, but he lacks elite speed, as he has decent speed. He supposedly clocks in around 4.5, but has supposedly run in the late 4.4s. The combine will be a big day for him, and if he runs anything under 4.45 his stock will definitely hop into the 1st round. Line him up across from Derek Cox, and we have a pretty good set of corners. Coples and Gilmore pretty much solidify this defense for the long run.
3. Brian Quick WR Appalachian State - He disappointed me this week, and he measured in at 6' 31/2". I thought he was 6'5"...He's a good route runner, with pretty good hands. He has long arms, and made some pretty nice catches in practice this week. I think the Jags will get lucky, and he'll slide out of the 2nd. Though if he runs anything faster then a 4.45 in the 40, he's going to be a 2nd round pick for sure. Looks a lot like Brandon Marshall.
4. BJ Coleman QB Tennessee-Chattanooga - A quarterback? Yes a quaterback. If you watched the east-west shrine game, and some of the practices. He was definitely the top quarterback there by far. During the game he completed 10/15 for 170 yards and a touchdown. With Greg Olson, Coleman can be developed into a good backup QB, and maybe even be a solid starter on some other team, if he ever leaves here. He some of the tools. He has a great arm, has the intangibles, has good accuracy(struggles with deep accuracy though), he has good mechanics. He just needs to fix his footwork, and get more used to taking snaps under center.
5. Rhett Ellison TE Southern California - This isn't because we share our first name. Rhett is an intriguing prospect. He has a good frame at 6'5" 250 lbs. He's a solid receiving tight end, and a solid blocker. He can do both, which makes him a better option than Zach Potter who, is good at blocking, but really shouldn't be running routes. Rhett is good at using his body to shield off defenders, and has good hands. He's a good route runner, and can block well in space. Not fast at all, as he runs his 40 anywhere between 4.68 and 4.85. He's also pretty versatile, as he can play fullback as well, and contributes on special teams. CBSSports compares him to Joel Dreessen of the Houston Texans.
6. Dwight Bentley CB UL Lafayette - A late round guy, who could definitely be a nickel in time. But we have our nickel, so he's just a depth pick, he really impressed at the east-west shrine game, after only being there due to an injury, and Bentley being the replacement. He's pretty fast, he's quick, has good footwork, and he's good in coverage. Small though at 5'10" 180 lbs.
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Justin Smith plays in a 3-4...
If you think Coples is like Justin Smith, then he wouldn’t fit with the Jaguars’ current defensive system. I actually feel that way. He doesn’t have the pass rushing burst and explosiveness you need to be a top pass rusher, but he’s very strong against the run and can still help in the pass rush.
I think some 3-4 team in the low teens will take him and he’ll do very well, I just don’t think he’s the best pick for the Jags.
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he does play in a 3-4
but just because he plays in a 3-4, doesn’t mean he wouldn’t fit in a 4-3.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 29, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
I am pretty sure when he was in Cincy, they were playing a 4-3. He put up 43.5 sacks over 7 years there.
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I was going to put that in with my comment above,
but I was unsure what system they ran, because I didn’t follow football too much back then. And if I did it was only Jags, didn’t pay attention to the rest of the league.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 29, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I do not remember Cincy playing 3-4 in the recent past
I might be wrong, but I am assuming my memory serves me right and he was in a 4-3 in Cincy.
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He'd be a good pick for us
If and only if we’re trying to find a LDE at pick 7. I think somewhere between JJ Watt and Derick Morgan draft placement (early teens to early twenties) is about right for him.
with the 7th pick
why would you want to draft a guy who’s ceiling is as high as Justin Smith? I’d rather draft a guy like Nick Perry who has the potential 10 plus sack guy
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why would you want to draft a guy who’s ceiling is as high as Justin Smith?
I understand what you mean, but you do realize that Justin Smith should be Defensive Player of the Year. I would love to have a guy whose ceiling is that of becoming a dominant force on the defensive line who puts up DPOY caliber years.
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Nice Draft
I agree Williams/Arvil, Knighton, Alualu, Coples would be a very nice starting D-line. Gilmore is good, I think Gilmore is one of the best CBs in this draft, I like the Bentley pick as well.
No way in hell I would spend a 4th on Coleman or any QB in the draft and I thought Potter had some pretty good catches this season but hey I could be wrong.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 29, 2012 1:44 PM EST reply actions
Potter
has surprisingly good hands and athletic ability. He did have one drop I believe, when he started running before securing the catch.
I recall him dropping atleast one pass.
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by rhettchrystal on Feb 3, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Not crazy about a QB
Would prefer Minnifield in the 2nd if ther but Gilmore has talent. Doubt Bentley is ther in the 6th but Coples is my guy right now. Good draft
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by Thunder64 on Jan 29, 2012 3:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
so when are we going to address the O line in this draft ?
we should draft Martin or Reiff in the first and maybe a guy like vinny curry in the second and give me josh norman or some other corner in the third and definitly no QB in the fourth Come On Man, give me a TE like Egnew.
Rieff
Is gone…Martin isn’t worth the pick, bunny curry fails to impress me…already addressed corner…the qb was a bap pick imo…egnw is a big receiver pretty much offers nothing. In terms of blocking an always lines up a a receiver at mizzou
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 29, 2012 4:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Still did not answer my question dude
Where are we going to adress the O line in this draft. Martin and Rieff are very good and either one can be there. Also we can adress the DE in the second or third or even in free agency. Also Stephen gilmore by some is projected as a first round pick. Also how is BJ Colmean BAP, it does not even make any sense. Micheal Egnew is BAP and knows how to catch Blaine’s balls so its a perfect fit.
If we don't get to it, we don't get to it...
Keep in mind that Eben Britton will be back next year. At best that means we have Monroe and Britton at the tackles, at worst, Britton slides into Rackley’s place at guard and we give Cameron Bradford a shot.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 29, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I have absolutely no expectations of Britton
Like Bradfield a lot, but I still think he would have already been starting in place of Whimper if, by the end of the season, he was really the better man. Not saying he can’t be, or won’t be, but until more starts being said about him starting from some coaches, I’m not gonna buy that he’s worth trusting as a starter yet.
Also, lol at Egnew knows how to catch Blaine's balls...
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 29, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lets see...
…rackley will be better, britton will start training camp healthy(as of right now)…so the line will be better, and there’s free agency.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 29, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
I really don't like an of the talent at the top end of this draft
I think we’d be much better served trading back(sounds like we say this every year) and grab more picks. This year with Martin, Reiff, Kirkpatrick, and Richardson I think it’s as real a possibility as any.
So say we trade with the Bears, who could definitely use help at LT, we then aquire their 1st and 2nd 2012 as well as their 2013 2nd, they get a prospective franchise LT.
1.19-Mohammed Sanu-Solid, productive player who I think can be a day one starter. I believe he’ll have a long career and quietly rack up 1000 yard seasons.
2.6-Chase Minnifield-A solid addition to the secondary.
2.18-Vinny Curry-Great pass rusher, but a liability else where. At first he’d come in pass rushing situations, but hopefully he can develop else where.
3.7-Michael Brewter-He had a down year, but a year or two behind Meester and he should develop nicely.
4.6-Michael Egnew-What he and Gabbert did together a year ago is part of the reason Gabbert was drafted at 10, they Jags may look to recreate that success with two familiar players.
5.7-Lance Lewis(WR, East Carolina)-Another bigger receiver to add to our fledgeling core.
7.7-Shane Powell
I'm for trading back too.
But the problem is, there may be nobody available worth trading up for…
1. Indy – Luck
2. Redskins(trade) – Robert Griffin III
3. Vikings – Matt Kalil
4. Browns – Blackmon
5. Bucs – Claiborne
6. Rams – Rieff
7. Jags – ?
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 29, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Eagles may want one of the top receivers, Bengals may want Richardson
Both have 3 picks in the first 2 rounds. I can see either giving up at least a 2nd. I don’t think Reiff will be gone by 7th. If we could trade back into the late teens, Mike Adams might be a good pick, though.
I think there’s opportunity, but it’s all going depend on how those top picks end up. No one thought Tyson Jackson or Heyward-Bey would be drafted where they were, who’s going to be the top 10 reach this year? I say it’s Jeffrey/Floyd to the Eagles.
I don't know...
..Eagles can definitely grab either one of them where they are sitting. If Blackmon manages to slide to #7, then I’m sure the Jags will get quite a few calls, but if he doesn’t, they’ll be the ones calling.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 29, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Remember what you were saying about all we need is ___ and no more holes
The Eagles will feel like that when they lose DJax. If they don’t get anyone to replace him with, they’re really, really, going to want to make sure they have that guy. After all, they won’t be the dream team without a top wideout.
Let’s say Floyd is their top WR (even above Blackmon). This might actually be the case with a few teams after the combine. What if they think he’s worth a 1st and a second? With the Panthers, Bills (who might lose their best receiver) and Kansas City (who might lose their best receiver) all being guys who could take a WR picking after us, we might be in the best position for them to go.
Of course it’s all speculative, but wanting that WR might make them reach a little bit. Happens every year.
My point is...
…why trade picks for a guy, you can get and keep your picks?
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 29, 2012 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wha?
I jut dont get it, DID YOU WATCH THE SAME GAME I WATCHED? I dont get why so many on here are going with Coples now, HE DIDNT IMPRESS, in fact, with all the talent that the south had on defense, they seriously looked like crap, so either Coples is way overated, or the offensive lineman on the north are vastly underated, didnt coples go against Adams most of the time? I would pick Adams over Coples, all I have been seeing on this site today is man crushes on coples, He is lazy, he is slow, and the sack he had? the O lineman pushed him into the QB, had the o lineman just stayed engaged straight? Coples never would have got him, as was the case the rest of the day, He doesnt seem to have much of a bull rush, and his swim tech, is horrible, all he has is quickness and possible upside- GO O LINEMAN OR WR IN THE FIRST, ITS WHAT THIS TEAM NEEDS MORE, AND WHAT THIS DRAFT HAS MORE OF. The DE"S in this draft are weak from top to bottom. Get Avril, get wallace, or V jack, and possibly nicks, then go after a tackle, or wr in the first!!!
Actually...
…coples has a really good bull rush…
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 29, 2012 8:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was trying to compare him to Harvey...
…but Harvey was known is a great pass rusher at 6’4", 270 lbs. Coples is 6’6" 280, and isn’t known for his pass rushing ability, that’s one of his cons. Harvey was a lazy player, Coples was lazy last year, but I’m sure he’ll be putting in a lot of effort, trying to get that fat contract, in a few years. With Joe Cullen and another good end on this team, they can develop him into a great every down end.
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