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Shad Khan Would Have Drafted Tim Tebow

I've gotten lots of e-mails about Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan's comments on the radio about Tim Tebow. I kind of avoided talking about it, because it's really a non-starter, but I figured I would transcribe the whole thing for you guys since there is a lot of interest in it. Here is what Khan said on WOKV Monday morning when a caller asked him about Tim Tebow:

"You know something? I think I can tell you this. I had a long chat with Wayne (Weaver) that year. Obviously the Rams drafted Sam Bradford, and I was talking to Wayne then on what they ought to do. I should have an offline conversation with you, OK? I'm going to absolutely talk your ear off. Some of the stuff might not be politically correct, but I share your sentiment. I think, when is the next time Jacksonville is going to have an athlete like Tim Tebow? Coming from being raised in Illinois, I couldn't see Red Grange playing for anybody other than the Bears or Dick Butkus playing for anybody other than the Bears. I don't want to get into 20/20 hindsight, and God help us, the draft record has not been the best with the Jaguars."

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The host of the show then asked Khan if he would have drafted Tim Tebow. "100 percent I would have. Absolutely," Khan said. "The first Jaguars game I came to was in '10, we played Denver here. There were a lot more Tebow jerseys in the Jaguars stands than the teal jerseys for any player, let's face it. You hate to get into 20/20 hindsight and finger pointing, but certainly if I had anything to do with it. We probably won't have a chance like that again."

To me, it's not really a big deal. Khan said he'd have drafted Tebow, but everyone assumes this means he would have taken Tebow with the 10th overall pick, but he never specifies that. It's possible Khan meant the 10th overall pick, but it's also possible Khan meant just in general. Some have also pointed out this could just be a PR move by Khan to extend the "olive branch" to the legion of spurned Florida Gators fans who "would have" bought tickets.

Oddly enough, when Khan was in talks with the St. Louis Rams he went to their personnel people after talking with Wayne Weaver, to get a second opinion on Tebow. What did they tell him?

Wayne gave me very logical, very clinical answers on reasons why he wouldn't do it. I went back to the Rams, their player personnel folks, I said, you've got to tell me, if you were Jacksonville, would you be drafting Tim Tebow? They said absolutely not. It was like they were reading from the same script Wayne had read from.

I said, there comes a time where emotion trumps rationality and this, if I was an owner, would be one of those moments for me.

Really to me, the bigger picture here a subtle shot at the Jaguars draft failures. In my personal opinion, that may mean general manager Gene Smith's seat is already rather warm and if rookie quarterback Blaine Gabbert doesn't improve significantly in his second season, it could get rather hot.

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this is the year those picks in 2009 need to flourish

Monroe, Britton, Knighton, Cox, and Thomas need to be getting in the conversation for top tier mention.
Alualu needs to step it up as well.

If you really think about it, if you weren’t a Jags fan, you’d probably only know about 4 picks from the last 3 years for what they’ve done as pros.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not really upset with Genes picks.

I think a team needs a deep roster to make annual runs as a contender. The backups obviously aren’t the stars, but they need to be patches who can fill in in a pinch when the inevitable injuries hit. An NFL team only needs 3-4 stars. The rest of the guys need to be efficient at what they do. Right now we have a lot of solid guys, but only 1 star. If we can bag a 2 or 3 more stars via the draft and/or free agency we will be a top team.

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by JPQ! on Jan 31, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Also during the probowl voting , when people were witing who would they make the pro bowl Monroe was mentioned a few times Also Tyson Alualu is probably the second best player on are defense and was playing on a injured leg all season. Cox is good and Knighton is good. Thomas does not need to be all that great he was a fourth round pick he just needs to be OK. We do need to see more of Britton though

by fan7 on Jan 31, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

well, for starters, I think Pro Bowl is a farce.

But, none of our picks from the past 3 years have been what I would call stars and impact players. Maybe Knighton. I think the other guys I mentioned can get there. From my vantage point, Gene has done a solid job of collecting “jars on the shelf” through the draft. Now we need impact guys.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

a guy who teams have to gameplan for on a regular basis. We currently have 1 consistent star.

good enough answer?

Or would you prefer, a player with a bitchin’ touchdown dance or long beautiful hair who played for an SEC school or PAC 10 school.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

technically missouri will become a SEC school

Haha

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by TheTealDeal on Jan 31, 2012 4:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This is so stipid

teams have to gameplan against the whole team not just one player

by fan7 on Jan 31, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

False.

Joe Gibbs said repeatedly ( back in the day) that creating a game plan to stop LT was one of the hardest things he had to do in coaching.
Eric Mangini today on ESPN talked about how every team has a game plan for “elite” players. He was discussing WRs, and said that as a coach you always create a game plan to shut down those players – the ones that produce despite those game plans are truly " elite".
Teams game planned against MoJo all yea. They put in 8 and 9 man fronts to stop him.
Saying teams dont plan against one player is ridiculous.

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by JPQ! on Jan 31, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

who?

do teams pass away from Cox? Run away from Knighton and Alualu? Do they fear Monroe? Do Lewis or Thomas get double coverage?

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet more teams are going to start throwing away from Cox because when healthy he shut some wid rexievers down like Kenny Britt and Anquan Boldin and Torrey Smith when he was covering them. Oh yeah and I doubt many teams want to run up the middle of are D line because they wont get many yards. Im pretty sure some DEs rather line up on the other side so they wont have to deal withMonroe. Akso why do you keep mentioning Lewis and M-80 I know that had bad years and I have said nothing about them

by fan7 on Jan 31, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I mention them, because, well, by salary they ARE GETTING PAID TO BE STAR PERFORMERS!!!

Why are you even trying to go tit for tat with me. You know I’m right.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

and as far as Cox, we need to see who's on the other side.

Mathis really did play well this year.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

Mathis is savvy. It’s a trait that comes with experience. However, obviously the ceiling is higher for Cox. He can be a good one, but I’m not sure he’s ready to be one of those supposed “shutdown” corners.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Oh.....

Joe used the word savy….I hope Johnny Biceps has recovered from his first head banging!

by GAJAGFAN on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

uncle!

I relent, “savvy” is a jags fan’s best friend. I shall now use the word “savvy” 15 times today (whether in the proper context or not) and say seven Hail Mary’s as penance for my treachery

by JohnnyBiceps on Feb 1, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

dude, come on now!

do you really think teams went into games last year saying, Man we have to stop the passing game.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

DUDE.....

Alualu was definetely the worst starter on our defense, but that isn’t technically a bad thing, because our defense was really good.

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by rhettchrystal on Jan 31, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

DUDE ARE YOU KIDDING ME

Tyson is are second best defensive player on the team and definitly the best D lineman

by fan7 on Jan 31, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Mincey had 8.5 sacks, 57 tackles, 4 forced fumbles, and an INT.

I’d say that was a better year than Alualu.

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by JPQ! on Jan 31, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

not this year

it was a collective effort. Lowery, Landry and yes, even Mathis were more consistent than Alualu.

Alualu played hurt and probably should have shut it down but I give him credit, he didn’t.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

don't back yourself into a corner with a word like definitely

And don’t base all your info on a website.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha...what?

You said definitely the best on the D Line.

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by JPQ! on Jan 31, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony Boselli, the voice of objectivity and reason with the Jaguars.

by Alfie Crow on Jan 31, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

the voice of saving face

on a 1st rounder that hasn’t yet proven worth it.

by CheapSeat on Feb 1, 2012 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

It'd be a fun exercise

to go through that list and see which picks have proven worthy of first round status from that draft.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Of the first rounders taken in 2010 (eliminating Alualu and Tebow for purposes of perceived bias)

I’d say maybe 10-12 could be classified as worthy of first round status.

Bradford
Suh
Berry
Okung
Haden
Earl Thomas
JPP
Iupati
Gresham
Bryant
McCourty
Odrick

12 of 30 is 40%.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

well, he seems to have taken the torch from Vic

Blasts Monroe in offseason for being too skinny and all of a sudden fans turned on Monroe and said he was worthless even though he played some damn good football this year in the second half of the season.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

dude, why are you trolling me?

I was talking to Rhett. He is basing his info off a site that listed Alualu as the worst defensive tackle. Tyson had some really good games, but near the end of the year, it was very clear he was playing on 1 leg and had no push.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

fair enough. I woke up too early from my post work nap.

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

profootballfocus is the one i use idk if rhett refers to the same one

its actually a really good site. they do everything without bias and they breakdown every play of every player and alualu is always graded poorely

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 31, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

no i dont

but im in the minority on this in the public viewpoint. but single him out next year when you watch defense. i did that for the last 5 or 6 games and he did not impress me at all

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by Jaggaholic82 on Jan 31, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

They aren't football experts

And they don’t have special resources. They’re fans just like you and I. Their opinions are worth noting, but they’re just opinions, not facts.

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by Adam Stites on Jan 31, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

from the way they break down film

And talk about the game and consistantly have in depth statistics I don’t think they’re just fans. I’m not trying to promote them but imo they’re a reliable source

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by Jaggaholic82 on Feb 1, 2012 12:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

They don't have film

I’ve spoken with several of them and they rewatch the games by rewatching the television broadcasts from their homes. That means that they’re judging safeties even though they might only see them once every three plays.

Like I said, their opinions are worth noting because they’re some pretty smart guys, but they’re just opinions. Not special ones.

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by Adam Stites on Feb 1, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

im referring more to the stats they take

i dont put hardly any weight into their grades of players because those are like you said, just opinions and are really subjective

but the stats they take are some of the best on the web that ive seen so if i see a guy like tyson is at the bottom of the league as far as stops and pressures i put quite a bit of weight into that

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by Jaggaholic82 on Feb 1, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Could you give me the top 10 guys?

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

top 10 defensive tackles as rated by PFF

If he’s the worst, there’s gotta be 10 guys who are the best.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

hes not the worst

but hes really low.
and the top ten out of DT and NT who played 50 percent of their teams defensive snaps are

sione pouha-NYJ
Geno Atkins-Cin
Alan Branch-Sea
Jay Ratliff-Dal
Kevin williams-Min
Cullen Jenkins-Phi
Richard seymour-Oak
Marcell Dareus-Buf
Haloti Ngata-Bal
Jurrell Casey-Ten/Jonathan babineaux/atl

alualu is in company with guys like
bj raji, ryan mcbean, roy miller, and brian price

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by Jaggaholic82 on Feb 1, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

I truly believe his level of play was not up to par primarily due to injury, but we had so many guys on IR, I guess his injury was deemed not season ending, or perhaps he has a lot of pride. I kind of admire a kid that will go out there and battle and not bellyache or make excuses to the media for his poor play.

Hopefully it is an injury that can be fixed with rest and not surgery.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 2, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Matt. Jones.

After what we did to another running, not great passing SEC QB and that experiment, I’m glad that we didn’t Tebow.
Although he may have made the Pro-Bowl this year……as a FB.

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by Boozy McHound on Jan 31, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The Jags went 8-8 in 2010 but did not have the luxury of a mediocre division

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha.

You’re already are stuck with a failed experiment… Blaine Gabbert.

You wouldn’t find a GM in the NFL that would trade Tebow for Blaine right now.

Next time you guys are winning playoff games (or within earshot of the playoffs), you let me know if any part of that feels like a failed experiment.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Feb 3, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

And there were NOT more Tebow jerseys than Jaguars.

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by FRANKdubz on Jan 31, 2012 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

He said

“than the teal jerseys for any player

So more Tebow than say MJD or Garrard or Taylor etc…

Not sure that makes it true, but it’s what he said.

by pksiv on Jan 31, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

While that may be true...

It still makes it sound like there were more Tebow fans in the stands. That day was a moral victory for the fans and the organization.

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by FRANKdubz on Jan 31, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

perception is reality

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

From an evil business perspective

This is a pretty smart thing for Khan to say. If the radical gator fans were brought back in the fold, even if temporary and for wrong reasons, it would increase the “fanbase”. Its an intriguing move

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

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by TheTealDeal on Jan 31, 2012 3:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

From an evil business perspective

This is a pretty smart thing for Khan to say. If the radical gator fans were brought back in the fold, even if temporary and for wrong reasons, it would increase the “fanbase”. Its an intriguing move

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

The Problem with our Wide recievers is that they're never wide open and they have trouble receiving the ball...

by TheTealDeal on Jan 31, 2012 3:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Oops double post

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

The Problem with our Wide recievers is that they're never wide open and they have trouble receiving the ball...

by TheTealDeal on Jan 31, 2012 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So you posted again

to let us know that you know what we already knew ? ;-)

by pksiv on Jan 31, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what my Android thought

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

The Problem with our Wide recievers is that they're never wide open and they have trouble receiving the ball...

by TheTealDeal on Jan 31, 2012 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe he needs to get some time under his belt in the NFL before we make statements like that. It is a business and drafting Tim would have brought 10 or 12 thousand Gator fans into the fold. However, when the team started losing because they changed their offense (like Denver did) and and the league figured out the gimmick (like it has) or Tebow got hurt (which he will if he keeps carrying the ball 30 times a game) everyone would be crying bust and attendance would be set back to the stone ages like the progress of the franchise when you miss on a QB.

by TCJagsFan on Jan 31, 2012 3:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

It wouldn’t have brought anywhere close to 10,000 Gator fans into the fold. It’d have brought maybe 1,000 season tickets, if that. They did market studies on it.

by Alfie Crow on Jan 31, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

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by FRANKdubz on Jan 31, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Instead

we have the douches here complaining about Tebow hype. Move on.

by zulu370 on Jan 31, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta post this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5tXMLI-OsI

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That had me about to cry bro.

Too funny…Go Gator

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by FRANKdubz on Jan 31, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and there are some things about Jacksonville I don't miss

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by unhipcat on Jan 31, 2012 7:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

But atleast we would be scoring….mincey does the chomp after every sack too…i dont mind as long as hes getting sacks.

by EZ904 on Feb 1, 2012 11:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The most interesting part of the interview, as Alfie points out...

is the reference to “our draft record has not been the best”. I like that. I hope he keeps everyone’s feet to the fire with regards to what they do. From Gene on down, everyone needs to be accountable. Maybe there was some complacency at 1 Stadium Drive before Khan sailed into town in his yacht.
The rest is just sports radio fodder. who gives a crap what he would’ve done. He didn’t own the team, and that time is gone.
Also, I love the fact that he says what he pleases. I hope he continues to do so. I am sick of all the cliches and platitudes and pablum we get from athletes on the reglar.

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by JPQ! on Jan 31, 2012 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

I know this is an unpopular opinion on this board...

but I would have loved the Jags drafting Tebow. I have followed this kid since high school and think it would have been awesome to see him in teal. I see all the reasons why they passed on him, the delivery ability to read defenses etc., but I would have really enjoyed watching him bring that intensity of his to EverBank. I don’t sit and moan about it, it’s over and done with, but I would have really enjoyed rooting for the hometown boy.

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by jaxg8r on Jan 31, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

I’d take this bet.

I’d bet a whole heck of a lot that says Tebow gets better this off-season than Blaine.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Feb 3, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

If Fox and McCoy did not make the call to scrap their offense to a read option, Tebow would have failed spectacularly

No different than when the Dolphins wildcatted their way to the playoffs a few years ago.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I too am a Gator fan.

I loved Tebow during his college career, but last time I checked football was a TEAM sport. I follow teams, not players. Everybody is always like, “I love Tebow because he is from Jacksonville.” Guess who else is from Jacksonville? THE JAGUARS!!!!!! and about 100 other NFL players.

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by FRANKdubz on Jan 31, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And I root for every one of them

I just think it would have been fun. I know the Jags are from jax… that was kinda my point. there’s no sense arguing about it and this isn’t a shot at the decision or some kind of commentary about the direction we chose, It’s just to say "that would’ve been a hell of a ride.

save your attitude i got one of my own

by jaxg8r on Jan 31, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

How much intensity can one bring to the game from the bench?

Tebow had a nice season in some respects (lower completion pct than Gabbert, btw), but it remains to be seen whether he can make it last. Most people agree it’s becoming more and more a passing league, and of all his attributes, passing talent is not among the more highly regarded. If he does well in Denver, more power to him. The Jags are just going in a different direction.

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by unhipcat on Jan 31, 2012 7:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

To be honest his comments probably will help him

Obviously he knows Tebow is not an option for the Jaguars. By making these remarks however he’s going to get some support from all those fans who believe that the Jaguars made a huge mistake by not getting Tebow. It’s the same way a politician will say “If I were in office when that bill was being voted on, I would have voted differently then the last guy” just to win over voters. Khan is just being a smart politician.

by kterr on Jan 31, 2012 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

No doubt

Thats exactly what I got out of the story, and you are exactly right, we need an owner that is going to hold our personel accountable for bad picks, and will give his imput on what he thinks our team may need to be successful, I like this guy Khan, and I think our fanbase will be pleasantly surprised, by how he turns our club around. Its time we are relevant again, and its time we put these LA stories to rest with a decade of winning

by zunklives on Jan 31, 2012 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

This obsession people have with a 20-something year old dude is mind-boggling. Let it go already, grow up and move on.

I do like the fact that Khan is pretty much calling out Gene and this past inept Jaguar organization. Take the usual “rebuilding” company lines and shove it up your ass. After a decade of Peyton’s dominance and soon his departure it’s time to start winning right now or heads need to roll.

by nationalmediacansuckit on Jan 31, 2012 3:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Can Khan give me a tour of his boat?

Maybe do a little fishing?

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by JPQ! on Jan 31, 2012 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

And that is why owners have no place in the draft war room

I think it is kind of obvious he is referring to the 10th overall pick and while financially that would have been great, in the long run it is an awful football decision to make.

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by Jagsrok9008 on Jan 31, 2012 6:25 PM EST reply actions  

Well, he apparently told Gene Frenette later in the day he did not mean with the 10th overall pick.

by Alfie Crow on Jan 31, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

really?!

I find that interesting considering the retrospective and the knowledge that tebow went in the first. I mean I am not sure it is a real story if he was saying it in general since I am not sure any Jaguar fan would have opposed Tebow if he fit value at a given pick.

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by Jagsrok9008 on Jan 31, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

this is gonna be one hell of a fun ride with Khan

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by Joe Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

When I first read the headline..

I thought “oh lord, is there anyway to lock an owner out of the draft room..lol”. But then I read and at least he acknowledged that picking him would have been emotion over rationality.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 31, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

to say....

there were actually MORE tt jersey’s than Jaguar jersey’s is just not true. Sure there were a good number and way more than there should have been but that crowd was still at least 80% wearing jags gear/jersey’s

by duvaljag on Jan 31, 2012 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

Well he's catering

To the Gator fans who for some reason have come to the conclusion that you can’t be a Gator/Jaguar fan which is one the most backward thinking mentalities I can think of. There is ZERO comparison people. I really don’t get it.

by nationalmediacansuckit on Jan 31, 2012 7:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Tebow did win a playoff game. He threw for over 300 against the Steelers.

I don’t know about you guys, but I would take a playoff win right about now. We haven’t had too many of those the past 10 years.

by Ironmanxrs2 on Jan 31, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

1 good game. Ask David Garrard how that propelled him.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

still more successful then gabbert so far

He might not end up being a good qb but he’s won a playoff game. Not a whole lot of qbs have done that in their first year starting

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by Jaggaholic82 on Feb 1, 2012 8:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I would hope he's had more success than Gabbert, but it's subjective.

Gabbert has not had a real offseason.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Guess you missed his good games vs Minnesota, Chicago, San Diego and the first one vs New England.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Feb 3, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude sucks.

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by FRANKdubz on Feb 1, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. Gabbert is terrible… Tough deal when you trade up for a bust.

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by McGeorge on Feb 3, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

wrong

It’s the media’s general opinion of Tebow (with a very few exceptions) vs. the reality of Tim Tebow’s current skill set as it is.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I like his emotion....

and owners that have had the kind of success that he has have come to trust their instincts. I ma sure there are times in his business career that he made decisions that others were against. Of those decisions, some have panned out, and some have not. I would guess he has had more pan out than not. I think he looks at Timmy as just another one of those decisions that he would have made. Face it, we all know how tough it is to win in the NFL……it ain’t no joy ride to reach the level of success he has either! In closing, let me just say…..I AM DAMN GLAD WE DID NOT DRAFT TIM TEBOW!

by GAJAGFAN on Feb 1, 2012 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

I'd rather he had the decision to make in 2011 vs 2010 (after rookie wage scale kicked in)

I believe Tebow’s contract is higher than Gabbert’s.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet you are right......

The wage scale has to help teams take a chance more than they did.

by GAJAGFAN on Feb 1, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah. The 25th pick in the 2010 draft wasn’t expensive.

It was really only those top 10 deals from 2004-2010 that killed salary caps. Like Derick Harvey. He made much more in his deal than Tim Tebow.

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by McGeorge on Feb 3, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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