Shahid Khan's First Day
by Alfie Crow on Jan 4, 2012 10:25 AM EST
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It is January 4th, 2012 and that means it is officially the first day of the Shahid Khan Jacksonville Jaguars era. The immediate future of the franchise should be interesting, as the team is in the hunt for their new head coach and it will be the first of many important decisions Khan will make in the near future. It's unknown how much more involved Khan will be than Weaver, or if he'll be more like Weaver and let the "football guys" handle the day to day operations of the football team.
It will be interesting to watch if the Jaguars approach to certain things change at all under the new owner, who's clearly made it known his goal is to re-energize the Jaguars fan base and grow the brand. Does this mean Khan will be more aggressive in free agency, given he will have more available cash than Weaver did? Does this mean he'll be more willing to take chances, or will he be conservative? There is no doubt Khan is a savvy business man, so the next few months will be fun to watch and compare to the Jaguars of old.
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I think he will bring some welcome changes to this organization
In particualr, that anyone(man or woman) employed by the Jacksonville Jaguars organization MUST sport a mustache(real or fake) during the entire football season.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
All I ask for...
Is that Khan isn’t afraid to spend money. I love the Weavers and their work in the community but Wayne really didn’t spend money on personnel for the franchise. All the coaches or free agents the Jaguars sign, under Weaver’s ownership, seem to be second tier players and coaches. I don’t recall the Jags ever spending money to go get a prestigious coach or an elite player.
Best of luck to Khan, and lets get this organization back on the right track.
by Trenton Williams on Jan 4, 2012 11:05 AM EST reply actions
The spending thing is old bullcrap.
JDR got a huge pay day. Do you really think we got into salary cap hell early on by not spending? Also, Poz was not a second tier free agent. We spent a ton of money in free agency last off-season. I just don’t know how people continue to make that argument.
Spending money was never an issue..
it was the bad choices in player personnel that was the problem. Sure, we may not offer $100m to a player like some other foolish teams would/have. Just be smart with the money and get the “right” people, that’s all.
Ok let me make it simpler for you
Weaver didn’t spend money on prized free agents or coaches.
JDR got a huge pay day, but is a second tier coach. When JDR was signed he was not the prized coach of the offseason. Parcells was. And there were better coordinators than him.
In comparison to other LB’s, you don’t think Poz is second tier?. I’ll give Poz his credit for being a tackling machine and fitting well into Tucker’s but he’s not great in coverage and nor is he a great pass rusher. He’s not a top 5 MLB. Barely Top 10.
by Trenton Williams on Jan 4, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Weaver spent money on Carnell Lake, Bryce Paup, Jerry Porter, Brian Williams, Drayton Florence, Paul Posluszny, Reggie Heyward, Aaron Kampman, Clint Session, Dawan Landry, Hugh Douglas, Mike Peterson, etc. etc. etc.
The “doesn’t spend money on prized free agents” is just another way to scream “They don’t sign players I’ve heard of and seen on Sportscenter!!!!!”.
by Alfie Crow on Jan 4, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Guess I don't need to finish
the other half of my comment then. That more or less covers it.
Doesn't spend money on prized free agents means
Exactly what it says. The year before all those free agents were signed, I don’t recall any of them being league leaders or game changers. During the same year the Jags signed those free agents, I’m sure the were other players in the NFL, who were better at the same position and you would rather have. I can easily name 5-10 players better than those free agents at the time they played.
by Trenton Williams on Jan 4, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'll answer GAJAGFANS question Salary cap!!!!!
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What other players at the same position should they have signed?
I mean, if you want to argue they should have signed other guys in hindsight, feel free to find all the “prized free agents” they missed out on. Simply stating “I’m sure there were other players” is just complaining without having all of the information for the simple fact of complaining.
by Alfie Crow on Jan 4, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I dont want Khan
spending money for the sake of spending money. Fans get fooled into believing that spending money is the only way to build a winner. Remember the Porter, Florence, Lemon signings? I hope that he iss aggressive towards spending but that he and Gene do their homework first.
by JagSoldier on Jan 4, 2012 11:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I trust Gene to find a good FAs
He proved over the last couple of years he can find guys who can play. Obviously Kampmans injury really set our team back at DE, but it was his healthy knee so it was bad luck. I don’t really trust Gene’s drafting style, but I expect him to find very good players in FA this year.
I sure hope he does to the offense next year
what he did to the defense this past year. Exciting times up ahead.
Agreed
Thats what I didn’t like about Weaver. He spent big money for B list (at best) players.
by Trenton Williams on Jan 4, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Porter
Porter was. Porter was a gross misjudgment by Shack in his final year. He wasn’t exactly a top tier FA coming from Oakland. I’d almost say he was C list.
Jack Del Rio wanted Porter. After the Oakland game the season prior, he told Porter they’d target him in free agency.
Even still
A gross misjudgement of what this team needed at the WR position at the time. Overpaid for what I would consider a B list FA. The Shack/Jack/Gene triangle thing was a failure for every season it was implemented.
I don’t suspect we’ll have any misses in FA with Gene having the con over all. I mean, we haven’t yet.
I was really just making the point that Porter was a B lister, if that, but the other FA signings have been under Gene the GM and he was one under the Shack&Jack party time. Hugh was a pretty big miss in FA though he was a pretty good DE before coming to Jville and performing poorly. Wasn’t that also the Shack&Jack era as well?
I have two thinhs to say on the Kampman front
1) I wouldn’t put Kampman as a FA miss in the traditional sense. I wasn’t like he was signed here then got fat and happy and didn’t try anymore. Or he got old and lost his skill, or just flat out played poorly. Before he suffered the ACL tear he was everything we wanted and more.
2) I don’t think Kampman signings going to be a norm for free agent signings in the future. He has stated before that he prefers to sign guys who are still fairly young and entering their prime. Preferable with a chance to get better. Signing Kampman was a move caused from being still early in his rebuilding process and an attempt to patch an area on D that was more than just bad, it was almost record breaking bad.
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who knows
maybe he turns into a 10 sack monster again this year, if he isn’t cut
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 4, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don't look at the world as black and white as that
Every case is different, which is why you can’t just lump them into one broad category. Everyone has a different meaning of what constitutes draft bust and the same goes for a free agent miss.
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This is the biggest offseason of them all...
…Khan has to hire new staff, and this could be the final year of our rebuilding process, there are only a few pieces left. Defense is good. All we got to fix is RT/LG and receiver, and were pretty much good. I’m sure Gabbert will play much better next year, especially with these positions filled, and a good QB coach.
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Just curious why
you would want a new LG? You dont see Rackley improving? I would like to see the C position taken care of only because Meester is getting old.
by JagSoldier on Jan 4, 2012 12:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Center for sure.
And some depth on that o-line would be nice.
I agree. I thought Rackley got better and better throughout the season.
I am worried about Center and Right Tackle, and that is even if Brad and Eben come back next year.
Rackley and RT
Rackley showed vast improvement this season. LT, LG, RG are all solid-great pieces. Meester played very well and people may be dismissing him as our starting C a season too soon. But with Estes there and Uche and Rackley also emergency Cs I think C is OK. RT if Britton is healthy is good as is but if we draft an oline guy in the first (at 7 Reiff or Martin) that would further solidify and hopefully protect from injuries. Britton could be a great swing guy.
I think WR, possibly TE (Is Miller really the answer?) are big concern areas. Also DE hasn’t exactly been solidified with Roth being a FA (maybe we resign him) Mincey as well. Chick played very well but outside of those 3 names we don’t have much pass rush. Coples could be the guy at pick 7.
Outside of WR, DE, and TE, every other position just needs solid depth, resign most of our D players and we could look like an entire different team just by adding 3 new starters to offense.
I think Khan’s spending won’t have to be too great in year one, unless he drops 100 mil on two wideouts.
Britton > Rackley
If we draft a RT, I’d like to see Britton slide inside.
QB: Solid
RB: Good
FB: Good
TE: Solid
LT: Good
LG: Bad, Rackley needs to sit, in my opinion, he isn’t ready.
C: Solid
RG: Good
RT: Decent, Britton is always hurt.
DE: Good, depends on resigns.
DT: great
LB: Great
CB: Solid
S: Good
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 4, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
O.o
Rackley is bad? REALLY?
I don’t see it. He was a 3rd round rookie and showed more progress at his position than our 1st round QB, so…….
I thought the line as a whole was playing really well the whole season, save the right side.
When Britton is fully healthy he is the best for that RT position. Though I believe overall depth on the oline is still a concern, the ideal starters make for a really nice line. When it comes to Rackley, I just don’t see how you think he is bad.
Rackley has been bad, that’s how people think he’s been bad. He gives up nearly a sack every game and multiple pressures. Sure, he’s a rookie going through growing pains, but you’re lying to yourself if you think he’s been anything close to good. Showing “progress” doesn’t mean much if the point you wound up at still wasn’t that good. Gabbert showed progress too, but at the end of the day he was bad.
I still don’t understand why fans have this vision in their head of Britton being some good RT. He struggled in pass pro as a rookie and struggled his second season before being injury. He made Austen Lane look like a super star in training camp.
by Alfie Crow on Jan 4, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the beauty is Rackley and Gabbert will almost have to be complete failures to have a sophomore slump
I think throwing Rackley into the fire right off was good for his development; Gabbert, tough to say til preseason next year.
Britton, sheesh. I think people loved the bluster he brought and his scrappiness, but he’s 1 injury from becoming Mike Pearson.
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I see it differently.
Though I admit I don’t get to see live action games and in Pensacola not many get CBS’ slot, I still have seen improvement. In run support our oline was fantastic or did MJD win the title despite them?
I always tend to be more of an optimist. We know which way you tend to lean.
I remember Britton playing well enough that many considered him to be playing better than Monroe. Of course maybe you consider Monroe to be bad too?
our run support WAS fantastic
but last time I checked O-line’s typically have to be able to do more than just run block
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Yes, I lean towards reality.
In reality, Britton was not that good of a pass blocker when he played and was not even close to Monroe, performance wise. I have no idea why or how people thought Britton played “better” than Monroe, because he never did.
Run support really means nothing. Most offensive lineman can run block effectively, it’s pass protection/pulling that sets them apart. Rackley was poor in both areas.
We need another top CB too
Mathis is a FA coming off a knee injury.
Thats why I put solid
Cox and Middleton would be a solid group, but middleton can be upgraded for sure.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 4, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
ahem.... Kerwin Bell.... ahem
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Spending money was a issue
The only reason we spent money the we did was because of the new CBA and we didnt have the kind draft we wanted wayne and gene had to spend…
For those of you worried about the center position...
I thought John Estes was being groomed to take over after Meester retires. Also, I was under the impression that he was coming along just fine. Am I wrong?
Estes has seen limited playing time this season
Albeit at guard when Rackley was out a few plays/series and actually did very well
by Jags85 on Jan 4, 2012 1:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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by cuffs007 on Jan 4, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by theMAGICman on Jan 4, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
u are drinking rather early
lol
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 4, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think Khan needs to do some retooling in the front office first
Hire a team president to act as the admin face of the franchise. I think Ray Anderson in the league office will be perfect for the job
get rid of Brian Sexton. We need a new, less condescending voice of the Jaguars
New uniforms – scrap the road unis altogether.
I’d consider reducing the # of club seats if possible
practice bubble and close off the road in front of practice fields
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If we get a practice bubble, I hope (if he’s hired) DeCamillis doesn’t have flashbacks of THIS
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read that this morning.
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 4, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
any advantage we can get to draw free agents is gravy
those things matter to players, especially state of the art weight rooms, training rooms, bubbles, stuff where there is little in the way of interruption or invasion of privacy while they’re working out.
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I'm against the practice bubble. I'm of the belief of if you play outside practice outside. It makes you more aclimated to your home environment...aka true home field advantage.
Heat, rain, humidity, stamina vs a dome team or a northern team….
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this ain't Junction Boys
not to mention, it gives players more time to do those things that Peyton Manning was lauded for like throwing with his receivers for hours after practice.
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If Bear Bryant tried that today...
He would be sitting in Junction by himself. Not a single college player would go through that.
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Mike Leach got fired for putting a kid in a shed
and Jim Leavitt and Mark Mangino were bounced for being verbally abusive.
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…Nike is taking over this season, so everyone may get new uniforms for all we know
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by rhettchrystal on Jan 4, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
I thought every team had the same amount of money to spend under the salary cap
So can someone explain by what u mean khan has more money to spend?
by amujic32 on Jan 4, 2012 2:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This may sound crazy but can you elaborate?
I figured all teams have equal amount of money for everything? What do you pay more money upfront? For who? Coaches? Players? Please explain
by amujic32 on Jan 4, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They have equal money, but not equal money readily available. Some owners go out of pocket to pay upfront bonuses. It’s why typically bigger market teams have better shots at FA’s, because a lot of the time they can pay more money on the front end in the form of a signing bonus.
Oh ok thank you
See I thought it was illegal your owners to give money out of pocket
by amujic32 on Jan 4, 2012 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think you're misinterpreting
that being said, I think Khan is going to have to figure out ways to win off the field by way of locally held revenue streams to do some of this.
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The more of your money you can get in signing bonus (upfront), the more financial security you have.
So if the player gets paid up front and the team cuts him, the player is less impacted financially.
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So, obviously, players want As much upfront as possible.
Khan can pay that upfront, and then the CBA allows that bonus to be prorated over the entirety of the contract.
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Jags off-season
our draft pick position isnt great at 7 , so we are gonna have to take best available player ……what i want to make sure is that we pick up 2 good revievers in free agency ( bowe, meachem , v-jax, garcon , wayne , douglas. etc…..) and that we shore up our D E holes
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by Daddycrapper on Jan 4, 2012 2:54 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I hear what you are saying about picking 7th, but...
I don’t think it’s as bad as people think. The draft is a crapshoot, always will be – no matter where you pick. I bet the Chargers thought they were in the catbird seat when they had second pick and got Leaf.
When we look back in 5 years we may say “thank goodness we picked 7th, so we missed out on _______, who was a bust. We found ____ at 7 and he’s a franchise player”.
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Make it rain Khan, Make it rain!
Just not on Jerry Porters and Drayton Florences please.
by Pocket Hercules 32 on Jan 4, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions
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