2012 NFL Mock Draft: Who do the Jaguars take?
by Alfie Crow on Jan 9, 2012 11:34 AM EST
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PrintAs the 2012 NFL Draft order clears up as the playoffs continue, we'll continue to get more and more mock drafts. SB Nation.com has released their latest mock draft and has an interesting pick for the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'll explain what I mean by interesting after the jump.
You can check out SB Nation's 2012 NFL Mock Draft right here.
7. Jacksonville Jaguars, Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
Jeffery's stock is going to rise between now and the draft. That process started with his 148-yard performance in the Capitol One Bowl. Jeffery has the tools to be elite, and last year most had him pegged as the top receiver in this draft. Jacksonville's current group of receivers would be reserves on most teams, and they need to get Blaine Gabbert someone to throw the ball to this season.
Jeffery is really the only receiver I would be OK with taking in the Top 10 for a few reasons. For one, he has excellent size at his position and is virtually uncoverable, even with a corner blanketed on him because of his combination of size, leaping ability, and hands. Jeffery is masterful at timing his jumps for passes and has soft hands, naturally plucking the ball from the air. The biggest concern for Jeffery is his conditioning and his overall speed. A picture of Jeffery surfaced prior to the 2011 season where he looked rather plump, but in games this season it looked like he trimmed quite a bit of his spare tire. Here's a picture of his from August of 2011.
He's a big receiver at 6-foot-4 and 230 pounds, but his speed leaves a lot to be desired. He's a long strider who builds speed as he goes, but he uses his hands well to get off the jam. If you go watch his Capital One Bowl performance, he absolutely dominated Nebraska's Alfonzo Dennard, who's viewed as a Top 20 player in the draft. Jeffery's overall performance in 2011 had a big-time drop off from 2011, but South Carolina also had issues at quarterback and a change in their offensive system when the quarterback switch was made permanent. It's also worth noting Jaguars scouts have spent significant time at South Carolina practices and games in 2010 and 2011.
Here's a clip of Jeffery catching a hail mary touchdown in the Bowl game, which displays just how good he is at going up for the football, even in a crowd:
Can anyone tell he's my favorite wide receiver in the draft?
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i like him but
rhett totally sold me on kirkpatrick. i would be very pleased with any of the 2 at 7. but i thought u were a trade back and get kendall wright guy
Why would you think I’m a trade back guy? I always say wishing to trade back is stupid, because it requires someone to trade up to happen.
He owned Dre Kirkpatrick just so you know.
I’d take Alshon if he was there. No way the Jags pass up on him. He is too good and with all things considered with taking Blaine, they better get some good young talent. I just hope the Jags can trade back up into the first round and get Sanu somehow but that’s a long shot.
I need my meds.
He owned Dre in Dre's first year actually starting instead of being a ST/garbage time guy as a freshman.
It’d have been a much different story this season had they played again.
I'd be more than happy
With Dre Kirpatrick, Alshon Jeffery, or even Trent Richardson if we can’t trade back. I honestly think Jeffery will be a much better WR in the NFL than Blackmon.
Running backs are prevalent around the league.
Finding a great running back is hard, but it’s not very hard to find a “good” one.
If you’re going to take a RB at pick 7, he better be a great one, and I don’t think Richardson is.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 9, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I like him.
Slightly concerned on the maturity (not too many kids get tossed from bowl games) but I do think he has some good upside potential. He is the kind of WR this team needs.
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Jeffrey
He shouldn’t have been tossed. Denard through Punches, Jeffrey just shoved a bit and mouthed off..
by malmarvjr on Jan 9, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This. Jeffrey did nothing worthy of being thrown out. Dennard threw punches, Jeffrey just shoved him back.
Ok Good.
I never got the full story on that. Too many bowl games going on that day. Makes me feel better about going after him.
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Second round.
Would you like Vinny Curry in the second if he fell that far? That kid had unbelievable speed for a DE and is relentless. What say you?
I need my meds.
also it is misconception that he is slow.
he blocks downfield exceptionally well and has pure hands. draft him and sign a guy and we will be much better in the passing game.
We'll know...
after the combine and his pro day if those misconceptions about his speed are true or not.
It seems...
there are quite a few people here that disagree with you. I can’t say either way because I dont’ watch college football.
He doesn't have break away speed
but he does get behind people. Basically he’s faster than he looks because of his size.
Put that way...
I say draft him, get a legitimate deep threat and we’d be set for a while. We’d have the entire package of receivers at that point. A true #1 (Jefferey), that we’ve all been clamoring for, a deep threat (?), a slot guy (M80) and possession guys (Dillard and Shorts). That would still leave room for one more guy to just be a complimentary guy for our OC to use however that players strength allow him to be utilized. That’d be nice to have for once.
Overdrafted?
I’m good with Jeffrey as his size is ideal but at #7 i just hope the Jags are not over-drafting this guy .. It’s a must need, but our track record is pathetic with drafting WR’s..Actually we have never drafted a succesful WR..We would still need to get a WR in FA, maybe 2…We Need lots of help at DE and in the Secondary too…If Claiborned slips to #7, that’s a no-brainer pick for the Jags, even if Jeffery is there…
How do you...
define overdrafted in this situation? If he rates just as well as other players at other positions, I don’t see how Gene doesn’t draft him. Technically it’d still be going BAP if he rates equally and he’d be filling a need, which is a win, win for us. Also, I wouldn’t say we need lots of help at the defensive end and secondary position. Could we use talent upgrades at both? Sure. But it’s not like either of those are suffering from a lack of talent the same way the receiver position is. Again, if another player falls that is hands down a better propect than Jeffery, you take him. If not, I don’t see how he isn’t the pick.
Well Said
I agree with your Defense assessment.. “Lots” was overstated..Overdrafted is defined as not being the highest player valued left on the board at #7.. By just drafting WR b/c it’s a need if there’s players on the board that Jags value higher at other need positions especially if Jax addresses WR in Free Agency..
I understand...
what overdrafting is in the general sense of the word. It’s just to me, as players are selected during the draft, each pick (espeically in the first round) redefines what overdrafting is. I mean 2 of 3 of Gene’s first round picks, Monroe and Gabbert, weren’t supposed to be there for us to get. Does that mean that every player drafted ahead of them were overdrafted?
The only issue i have with him
is lack of good speed. He has to shwo me he has the speed to get behind the secondary at times. Couple that with his size and he might noe evn make it to 7, although if he would, I would love the pick.
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let's see on this Kikrpatrick fellow
good size, good speed, superb coverage skills. I guess that makes him a bad CB not likely to have a very good NFL career.
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Also got killed by alshon when they matched up
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by JaxBlaster on Jan 9, 2012 12:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
good cornerbacks sometimes do have bad games
it is not like the WR that had a field day on him was some nobody projected to be a UDFA in the draft
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That wasnt my point
My point was that if kirckpatrick is elite then jefferys is too, and i rater have the elite wide out.
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by JaxBlaster on Jan 9, 2012 2:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it is harder to come by a fantastic talent at CB than WR
that makes Kikpatrik more valuable at the pick and the pick if it comes down to the two of them
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Love child
I didn’t realize Randy Moss and Levon Kirkland had a love child who played football for South Carolina.
Ok seriously, I like this guy quite a bit and I’d be happy if we took him. With a body that size he’d probably be pretty decent at run blocking at the WR position too.
I just watched highlights for the first time.
He does look slow, but he also looks elusive and agile. Not every WR has to be a burner. Ask Carson Palmer.
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MJD is not that fast for a RB…
by CheapSeat on Jan 9, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that is the most obvious comparison
except Jeffery lacks those attitude issues
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
which one of the personalities?
I like Jeffrey. What he’s done with the crap sandwich party sub for quarterbacks has been tremendous. Probably Spurrier’s most NFL ready receiver and that says alot.
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And have them battle for the same spot on the field?
I don’t think it would be a bad thing, and please correct me if I’m wrong here, but wouldn’t it be a little unwise to spend the kind of money/contract Bowe will require and a top pick on his eventual replacement?
Sorry
Meant to reply to the “Bowe and his sequel” comment.
I'll take the real Dwayne Bowe and his sequel
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I don't disagree with you about WR speed
But I’d just like to remind you that MJD ran a 4.39 at the 2006 combine. He’s plenty fast.
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I did not know that
Let me re-phrase – He does not display elite breakaway speed, but he gets the job done more often than not.
"He does not display elite breakaway speed"
Yeah right. MJD got a few of his TDs in the first couple of years of his career by busting out of a pile just to blow by all of the players in the other teams secondary.
Key words "In his first few years."
Unfortunately, due to his extensive use, he can’t burn secondary players anymore. He didn’t used to get caught. Now he does.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 9, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not like
he can’t rejuvenate his speed some. Last off season he spent most of his time rehabbing instead of training for speed. Not mention the last DB to catch him from behind was really fast himself, and MJD had already carried the ball a lot in that game at that point.
I thought...
the discussion was being presented in more of past tense than a present one. But you’re right, because he said so himself that he never had been caught from behind until this season. Also, to what Ewdtrey said above, MJD did say that he was going to get some training in to get back some of his speed that he lost during the rehab process. I can’t wait to see if he’s able to pull it off.
He definitely can
you can see it his first couple of steps that he still has a burst. Now it’s just about translating that to deep speed.
I think so too.
He’ll probably do some training similar to what track and field sprinters do to maintain their top end speed.
The 40 measures burst speed not sustaining down the feild speed
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by JaxBlaster on Jan 9, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes MJD is fast for a RB
he didn’t have his speed at the end of this year. But normally he is fast. He was the fastest RB of his draft class. He is faster than Adrian Peterson, McCoy, Beanie Wells, Ray Rice, Arian Foster, Turner, Gore, Lynch. Basically the only RB’s that see significant playing time that are faster than MJD is Chris Johnson, CJ Spiller, and Darren McFadden.
He never showed it
at the combine. And on KR’s, it didn’t look like that to me. And he ran a 4.37 at home on a super fast track. That’s like 4.44 at Indy.
Mock Drafts are biased towards needs....
without free agency results who knows what direction the draft will take.
I wish we could draft Blackmon..
But i’m thinking this will be unlikely, then i hope we draft Kirkpatrick.
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Id love Jeffery.
by rws591 on Jan 9, 2012 12:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I get worried
with the idea of drafting a WR in the first round. I think the pressure for him to jump into the starting rotation a be a " #1 ", might be too great. Spend the big bucks on proven vets and draft an offensive lineman.
3 receivers in the top 7.
I don’t see it.
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by Joe Fisher on Jan 9, 2012 12:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Not hard to understand...
since those teams need WR help. But, I’m not buying that is the way it’ll play out come draft time.
Not hard to understand...
since those teams need WR help. But, I suspect things will look different closer to draft time.
that's just the thing
obviously this draft is need based and not taking into account free agency. Who’s to say Cleveland doesn’t make Flynn an offer he can’t refuse? I could also see Minnesota panicking and taking Trent Richardson.
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Doubtful
with Gerhart back there and playing well. Not to mention they expect Peterson back soon after the start of the season, and they could also fill a RB need later in the draft.
Man, his knee was shredded
I think expecting him back next year at even 85% is asking a lot.
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I'm not expecting him to be himself
for a long time. Personally, I’d just rather put him on PUP. But even with that Gerhart was a second round pick that performed well. Let’s keep in mind, even with the AP injury, they have much bigger needs elsewhere. Safety, LT, or OL in general, WR, CB, DT. Their team is extremely depleted.
I bet the Rams take Kalil - if they stay at 2.
They need lots of WR help, but their line is atrocious and Bradford is getting killed. Kalil is the pick here.
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It would be my pick
I’d be ok with their receiver position. Denario, Lloyd, and Amendola in the slot. Losing Amendola killed that passing game this year. Getting him back would be a big time upgrade. He’s basically another Welker in that offense. I’m not even sure I would call him a poor man’s version.
Seems like Alshon
Has to be gang tackled, doesnt go down easy at all. But i never see him run away from anyone. Def. Not that great speed
by caneman4 on Jan 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Alshon Jeffries if Blackmon not available or Kirkpatrick if neither are available.
by orecic76 on Jan 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I believe in Jeffery after the Bowl game, but...
I still think Kirkpatrick would be a better pick at 7. Jeffery fills a need, but Mathis probably won’t be resigned next year, so Kirkpatrick will probably fill a need, too.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 9, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
What about Middleton...
and his potential as a starter next year? Even if Mathis doesn’t return, I think Middleton is a viable starter making the CB less of need.
Middleton is still backup material
did he play well? Yes
But he has his weaknesses. With more playing time he will get exposed too. Keep in mind we don’t know the extent of his injury either.
Isn't that the case...
with every player? It’s not as if Kirkpatrick or any other player selected won’t have their deficiences either. And he appeared to have the potential to be more than just backup material when he had his chances to start. I’m not saying that I don’t want Kirkpatrick because I would prefer a Kirkpatrick/Cox duo over a Middleton/Cox duo, but I still don’t think the CB position will be a need heading into the draft because of the starter potential I think Middleton can provide.
I understand what you're saying
but there is a difference between a worthy starting CB having deficiencies and what Middleton is deficient in. First of all, he doesn’t have the length of the other CB’s. He doesn’t have the deep speed. He struggles in zone. And he doesn’t make enough plays on the ball.
But...
is that enough to say that he couldn’t be a starter? I can’t say for sure, but there could be plenty of other CBs around the league that start that have those same weaknesses. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that he’s the guy you want starting for 4 or 5 years. Yet at the same time, I think he’d be good enough for a year or two to allow us time to find an upgrade in following offseasons via free agency or the draft. Although I could be wrong and he might be what you said he is, backup material.
To me that's enough to worry me
I don’t want to have to roll coverage his way every game. He can start a game here or there from time to time. But after a while he would become a liability.
Definitely...
about everything you just said. Question though. Do you think he’d so bad to the point where the defense would suffer a major setback in performance from the one they displayed this/last season?
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We need star power for ticket sales and for buzz appeal, not a overanked o lineman(which I think Both are)
If Gene reached for Alualu
who has been solid not great, then you has to reach for Jeffery even though I don’t consider it one. He is the second best receiver in draft so that could be BAP at even and we need receivers so that covers team needs. Sound good to me. Problem is you don’t know what you get with Gene.
by nationalmediacansuckit on Jan 9, 2012 1:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I haven't done all my research yet
but honestly, I think Jeffery is the best WR of this draft class, and also the best fit for Gabbert and the rest of the receiver group. Let’s keep in mind, we have no size outside at WR. Not to mention, I trust Jeffery’s hands over Blackmon’s hands to catch Gabbert’s fast balls on a more regular basis. Not to mention Jeffery is much better off the line against press.
I agree that Jeffery is probably the best WR in the draft this year.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 9, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get it...
where does this thinking that Jeffrey is the best WR come from? Everything I see says he’s the 5th best WR or ranked in the bottom third of the first round this draft. I get we want a big time WR, but not sure he’s everything and a bag of chips.
I don't get how he's
the 5th best. He’s elite in every way possible, except maybe speed. But he’s every bit as fast as Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe.
The only people...
who think Gene reached for Alualu are fans and analysts. Do you really believe that if Gene could’ve traded back and still gotten him, he wouldn’t have done so?
If we get Jeffrey
Who is in our starting lineup?
Jeffrey
Price/Robiskie
Dillard/Thomas/West??
???
?
T.O….J/k
Profit???
damn right
Maybe as a KR/PR but with that receiving corps Dillard, Shorts, and the pupu platter we signed and IRd last year would go, along with Osgood
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LMFAOROFL!!!
“the pupu platter we signed”
I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. Thanks, I needed that.
He could
once him and Gabbert get on the same page. Also a better WR coach could help, along with someone else to take away some of the coverage.
M80...
owes Gabbert an apology. There was one play in one of the last two games that summed up their working relationship during the entire season. We were in the redzone and it was like 3rd and 9. Koetter called for Thomas to run 10 yards and out towards the sideline. Gabbert put the ball right where it was supposed to be and if Thomas would’ve finished the route, it would’ve been completed for the first down. After the play, they showed Gabbert and I read his lips and he said “f***ing bull****”. He knew too that was all Thomas. I have the last two games recorded and wish I knew how to post a link to show it. So to me, this dysfunctional working relationship of theirs is more on Thomas than on Gabbert. Even if Thomas didn’t have faith in Gabbert as a starter, it’s no excuse for his performance last year.
If it's the play I thought it was
I think he was complaining about the hold by the defender when Thomas was trying to make his break. It threw off the timing.
I'm going to go look...
so I can be sure. Just from memory though, it looked like Thomas just stumbled out of his route. At the same time, you could be right. Even if that was the case on that one play, Thomas’ body language stunk all season.
the lack of speed is a killer...
…and the hail mary, proves nothing, he just got lucky, nobody knocked it down, I could of caught that.
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He went up over everyone
thats why no one knocked it down..lmao
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 9, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Been my favorite receiver in the draft from the start
I’d love to see him in a Jag uniform
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 9, 2012 4:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
We only have slot receivers!!!
So I’m not concerned that our first pick doesn’t have speed. So long as he has size, physicality, route running ability and great hands I’m find with it. We can always get a speed guy further down in the draft to help us stretch the field.
I lioke Jeffery.
Maybe if the Jaguars could trade back a bit, a pick him up would be the perfect scenartio.
BTW it’s high time for GM Gene to do a move like that. He always talking about getting more draft picks in the draft. I want to see that this year…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 9, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions
I am uncomfortable drafting a WR when there's such a good FA crop
I think you stick with BPA, adjusted for scarcity. I also don’t see a scenario where we can’t sign two decent WR options. I think that means we can almost downgrade WR in the BPA in the rankings.
Personally I haven’t watched any game tape from a decent angle to judge Jeffery’s speed and route running vs. various defensive sets.
so that may not make sense - let me try again
The PA part – player available – might reasonably include free agents. Sure you have to allow for the fact you may not get everyone you want – but in a year like 2012, you’re going to have a very good shot a number of nice guys.
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