Should the Jaguars Consider Randy Moss?
In a move that shocked no one, wide receiver Randy Moss has decided to end his retirement and make a return to the NFL. Moss announced he was planning his return during a web chat on Monday, saying: "I just wanna go to a team and play some football. Faith, family and football, that's my M.O., bro. Your boy be back for the upcoming season." So a team that is in dire need of receivers, should the Jaguars consider Moss? I say yes, the Jaguars should consider bringing Moss in, find out why after the jump!
The keyword in this scenario is consider. The team should consider bringing him in, weigh all of the options first. Let's see what he has to offer and see if he's serious about this comeback before signing him to a overpriced contract. In this very hypothetical scenario, it should be noted that I believe the team should only consider a one-year deal.
Moss believes that he's ready to come right back and continue at the level we saw from him before retiring, maybe not the last year, but you get the idea. Moss told NFL Network analyst, Heath Evans, that he is still able to run a 40-yard dash under 4.4 seconds.
"I texted my buddy, Randy Moss, and I asked him ... 'If you had to run a 40 right now, what would you run?' And he texted back, explicitly, '4.35 to 4.38,' " Evans said. So a guy who just sat out an entire season can still run a sub 4.4 40? Evans went on Moss' side and said, "I trained with this guy in the offseason. He is a nightmare to work out with. Many guys came in and out of those workouts, and they never showed up again. This guy knows how t get it done."
Since this is all hypothetical, let's say Moss can, in fact, run a 40 in under 4.4 seconds. That would be better than current Jaguars receivers Jarrett Dilliard (4.57), Kassim Osgood (4.68), Taylor Price (4.41), Cecil Shorts III (4.49), and Chastin West (4.59). That leaves only Mike Thomas whose 40 time isn't better, it just ties that of Moss.
The Jaguars have no wide receivers eligible for free agency this offseason (according to Pro Football Weekly), so it is unclear who will be on the Opening Day roster next season. So if the Jaguars choose to build through the draft or through free agency, Moss could still be an option. As it stands everyone with the exception of Osgood has three years or less of experience. Could the Jaguars count on Moss to mentor those guys?
What kind of effect would signing Moss have on a quarterback just coming off of his rookie season? Moss could bring an element to the team that it hasn't seen in years - a threat down the field. Throughout his career Moss has always been that deep threat, often staying out of the middle of the field and staying at the edge of the field. Moss is a kind of guy that quarterback Blaine Gabbert could look to in pressure situations, and count on him to make the catch. In situations like that, it could bring Gabbert's confidence up on those late-game drives. Moss is 6'4" and would be the second-tallest wide out on the team, behind Osgood, who isn't much of a down field threat.
On the flip side, signing Moss will be sure to bring the circus along with it. He'll likely get the same treatment as Terrell Owens, not getting seriously looked at by many teams due to his past. But at some point don't you have to overlook that and see what he's accomplished on the field and take a chance?
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I really think this would be an interesting move.
I’d be happy to have Moss on the team, and I think if he gets too big for his britches, Malarkey would have no problem sitting him…
Move on...
Randy Moss should move on to the next stage in his life, and the Jags should move on to a younger WR.
Isnt their like 5 wrs
On the the team right that are younger? They dont seem to be working out too well. Talent I talent. Moss at 34 is still better than what we have. Its worth a look.
by JagSoldier on Feb 14, 2012 9:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's been a cancer everywhere he's been so it's actually
it’s not worth a look.
You're entitled to your opinion
But except for his time in NE that’s what he’s been IMO. And we don’t have an established Coach & QB the way they do.
Why do people look
at this like he would be signed to be the savior of the wr corp? He would be a strong addition that can be let loose with little difficulty id he becomes a problem. Cancer…. Dang
by JagSoldier on Feb 14, 2012 4:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Because it's not just
about being able to let him go. Someone with his personality can destroy a locker room and have effects that last well after they’re gone.
You have to consider it
Look, Im usually not into retreading aging talent. If we are talking about any other team that can draft and groom WR talent then I so no hands down. But the Jags can’t cannot and have not done that so if the checks and balances work out I say why not. Until Gene shows or until this offense can put together competent TD scoring drives they need all the help they can get. Besides do something different for a change and stop being predictable. If Moss head and game is in the right place, go for it.
by nationalmediacansuckit on Feb 14, 2012 6:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
No.
We do NOT need this kid here. He did nothing for the Vikings, he did nothing for the Titans, and the Pats thought he was done. He is washed up and old. O wait, I take it back, let’s sign Moss, Issac Bruce and Hines Ward. That will help sell tickets!
Really?
All my Steeler friends think Hines is washed up, but the team is being delicate about it since he was (emphasis on WAS) such a good player for them. Not even the 3rd best WR on that team anymore, and I doubt he’d be an improvement over what we have.
NO thank you
and in the words of Forrest Gump “That’s all I got ta say about that”
by Jags85 on Feb 14, 2012 7:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions
lets see...
moss is 35, prob still runs sub 4.5 40, 6’4’’ with a vertical leap prob still in the mid-high 30’s, a decade of experience and we all know he has great hands. so basically we have a mature, experienced wr with a better skill set than any wr in the draft this year. of course we should consider picking him up. the question is would he consider picking us up? i dont think so, the leagues leading rusher and a qb who had one of the worst seasons to date? i dont see any benefits for him as far as being a jaguar.
by tellitlikeitistc on Feb 14, 2012 7:52 AM EST reply actions
Agree....
he’s only mature in physical age.
Agreed
I agree with you on whether or not he’d consider Jacksonville, that remains to be seen.
by theeCodyTaylor on Feb 14, 2012 12:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fair enough
I didn’t know he was a contributor. I realize it’s the offseason, I just think this particular argument has ran it’s course.
Let's think about this for a second
First, what has changed about Moss since we last saw him looking like a washed up WR and contributing nothing for the Pats→Vikings→Titans? Second, Moss likely wants a SB ring to complete his HOF resume, which means he is looking at teams not named the Jaguars for 2012. Third, even if all of the teams that are much closer to a SB pass on Moss, doesn’t that tell you that he’s washed up? At best we’d be getting a player loads of other teams passed on just to be a stop-gap for one, maybe two years. We’ve done that before and his name was Torry Holt. All it did was give us one unsatisfying year of delaying the inevitable need to get a productive WR for the long term. So if your expectations are roughly 51 receptions for 772 yards, then sure, sign Moss (again, presuming he’d like to play in Jax). That’s also assuming he wouldn’t cause any locker room disturbances, which seems like a pie in the sky dream to me and every team he ever played for.
Teams passing up on him
Because they are closer to a SB are doing so because they already have WRs on their team. We hve no one.
by JagSoldier on Feb 14, 2012 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Really?
So by your logic, he may be too washed up for a good team, but he isn’t too washed up for Jacksonville. That’s comforting. The Jags WRs drastically underperformed last year for a variety of reasons, but to say that none of them are better than the washed up shell of a WR that Randy Moss looked like his last season is a bit of a stretch. If he’s any good and he’s motivated, a team looking to get over the hump won’t pass on him and this whole conversation will be a moot point.
I TO's knee is better....
I think he would be the better choice. He is a better receiver in my opinion, and he was not the cancer he had been in his last few years…certainly no more so than Moss. All that being said, I would rather not see the Jags get either player, but try for one of the other established free agent WR’s available.
TO's Cancer is not man made IMO.
He appears to me to be extremely insecure and lack social skills which does nothing but cause him problems under the media spotlight that he finds himself in. Anywhere he goes will bring a media circus so if we sign him, we better fill the stadium.
Since you brought up TO, how about JJ Stokes?
That makes about as much sense as considering either of those two nimrods. The “fire Gene Smith” crowd is really getting creative in looking at ways to accomplish that.
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by unhipcat on Feb 14, 2012 9:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not saying we should sign him BUT.....
Let’s look at this from a different angle. Shahid wants to make our product stronger. He wants the people of Jax to think he going to change things. Wouldn’t it be wise for us to bring him in just to talk about a week before free agency and drive some attention to Jax. In the meantime drive the urgency level up for some teams to grab him. Someone posted somewhere that there is at least 6-8 teams that are in the market for a WR. Maybe anthor team bites on him do to the supply and demand factor. In which that’s one more team that’s not in the Colston, Manningham or whoever else sweepstakes……Just a thought!
by thegoodz on Feb 14, 2012 9:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Manningham Sweepstakes?
I’m not buying a ticket for that lottery.
by CheapSeat on Feb 14, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was just throwing possible free agent names out there. Thanks for the great input. Lol
by thegoodz on Feb 14, 2012 9:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bring him in earlier
We’d have to bring him in earlier to get attention for that. A week before the season, as you say, will be when the national media is talking about blackouts and how “we can’t sell tickets.”
by theeCodyTaylor on Feb 14, 2012 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
En oh
Section 442, RIP
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by unhipcat on Feb 14, 2012 9:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think we can all agree.....
pursuing Randy Moss would not be a savvy decision!
by GAJAGFAN on Feb 14, 2012 9:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think all that needs to be said
Is what minnesota had to say when he made his “fabulous” return to the vikings, and that was most the team couldnt stand him in the locker room and couldnt believe the team brought him in.
by dan073eb on Feb 14, 2012 9:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Maybe so
but I think he was a bigger problem , and also consider the fact that Favre and Childress lasted longer than 4 weeks in Minnesota.
He wouldn't even return the Jags calls if they did.
Stats aside, the circus and attitude he would bring is not even worth the Jags making such a phone call. Moss could fit with a team that already has an identity and some established WR’s. You need to have a QB who could command his respect too. He is in zero way a fit for the Jags and would be a net negative from day one. Hang up the phone, don’t take or make the call.
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Oh man.
This simply shows how desperate we must really be for a wide receiver around here. So maybe it’s time to enjoy the NBA for a while. Take a few days off. I mean, ya know, Jerry Rice, he can probably still catch, right?
Here’s to hoping this is BCC’s offseason low point, and the quality of football discussion only goes up from here.
Wait, real quick. Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco? I mean, couldn’t hurt.
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Before I write him off...
I’d give him a workout. If he can seriously run his 40s in the 4.3-4.4 range, I’d give him a shot AFTER we sign a couple of other receivers (such as Colston, Johnson, etc.).
by Adam Bealyer on Feb 14, 2012 10:17 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I would consider him if we really miss out on any big name FA WR
If we can’t get our number 1, then we could at least check him out. He’s better than two or three of our guys we have now, but he’d be a huge risk. I’m on the fence since we probably won’t get a chance at Blackmon.
Most of you are scared of what exactly?
If Moss is a distraction- cut him
If he is a detriment- cut him
Not the player you thought- cut him
Washed up- cut him
Its the NFL people, you can cut anyone at anytime especially a Moss who probably will come for cheap. So what if he doesn’t work out, cut him. Some of you need to get out of your bubble and stop being scared.
by nationalmediacansuckit on Feb 14, 2012 10:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Not wanting a guy because....
he seems to want to phone it in as of late, has a cancerous attitude, and most likely is washed up does not define scarred in my book!
If someone already has so many potential negatives why waste time on him?
This team needs to be building for the future, not next year. What is Randy Moss getting you in the long run? Nothing. He is not going to be a benefit to the younger players. He never has been one of those player coaches before and sure won’t be now. Why even waste a player spot on someone with zero long term potential? This is not a team on the brink of the playoffs next year. This is not even what I would call a coherent team. The team needs to develop as a team. Moss is not a team guy. It does not matter if he comes cheap. I can buy a lot of things cheap that I don’t need. In the overall picture, there is zero usefulness to the Jags bringing in Randy Moss in the long term, even without his baggage. If you include his baggage, it is a no-brainer. The resources are better used in other areas. Moss does nothing to improve this team in the long term and has very little upside in the short term.
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With the old regime, I'd say no way
JDR always seemed to be looking for a player to make an example of. I don’t know that I’d be opposed to it. He’s never had any serious injuries, his only real issue was not giving a damn. Doesn’t hurt to bring him in for a look see. I mean a lot of us want to see Kampman get a camp invite and he’s playing on 2 reconstructed knees.
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You say as of late he seems to phone it in, so cut him. You say cancerous attitude, which is so cliche, cut him. You say washed up, cut him. I really couldnt care less if they signed Moss or not. All Im saying is this current and past WR talent evaluating barometer isn’t and hasn’t worked. Try something different. If it works great, if not oh well.
by nationalmediacansuckit on Feb 14, 2012 11:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I just see it as a waste of time......
and I hope that did not sound to “cliche” to you. I would not want to be cliche.
I like your sarcasm
Your opinion, my opinion. We’re all entitled to one. I actually agree with you, more than likely it’s a waste of time. Bottomline, hit some homeruns this year in draft and FA and this is a non-issue.
by nationalmediacansuckit on Feb 14, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
absolutely consider him
If he can still run. He’d add publocity and productivity.
by caneman4 on Feb 14, 2012 12:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This just in....
My buddy, just texted me and asked… ‘If you had to run a 40 right now, what would you run?’ And I texted back, explicitly, ‘4.35 to 4.38,’
In the words of Flava Flav, “Dont believe the hype!”
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by TheTealDeal on Feb 14, 2012 4:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
T.O. > Moss
I really cant understand how there can be a shortage of oxygen affecting so many peoples rationale. Our top receiver(Mike Thomas) “break out” season was like 600 yards! Our most recent drafted receiver had like 2 catches!!!!!!!!
This is what our receiving corps looks like:
Slot Receiver who plays at 46. 40 speed: Thomas
- Receiver: Shorts/Dillard/West
Practice Squad Player: Price
Special Teams Player Disguised as a WR: Osgood
Notable former WR who got cut the day prior to the Superbowl: Underwood
VS
TO: HOF
Moss: HOF
And some of you turn your nose up at actually getting production??
Men are from Mars, and BCC readers are from Venus.
Someone please turn the oxygen feed back on.
The chance he wouldn't give his all is too great for me
Even if he is a huge upgrade, which might be overstating him a bit even with our terrible WRs, he has a long history of acting out or simply not putting for effort if the team is bad. Your basically investing in a guy who won’t be here the next year but is so talented that you have to make him a focus of your offense. I think you end up losing more then you get from investing in Moss, I’d stay away.

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