The most unlikely mock you'll see all offseason
The title says it all, so don't take me too seriously on this one, guys. I think there is a slight possibility our draft could turn out this way, but this is more of a just for fun. I'd really like to see it happen, honestly, despite the loss of a 2013 1st rounder (more on that later). Find out after the jump what makes this one so unlikely, and let me know who you'd rather see us take with the picks I acquire in this situation.
Free Agency:
DE: Mario Williams and Robert Mathis. Gene likes to say he's doing something then go in a completely different direction. The man is full of smoke and mirrors. I think Jacksonville should be a very attractive spot for any FA DE, right now.
WR: Dwayne Bowe, Laurent Robinson. Anthony Gonzales, Courtney Roby. Paul K. over at the ESPN AFC South blog wrote in his mailbag this week the Robinson would be an ideal signing as a number 2 guy here, and I think it makes a lot of sense. If Robinson were the best guy we were signing I'd be a little concerned, though. Gonzales could be a gem if he can figure out how to stay healthy, and he wont cost much. I don't know if Roby makes the team, but if he does, I think we found our KR.
OG: Carl Nicks. Bangin' this drum all off-season long.
QB: Chris Redman. Makes a lot of sense. Familiarity with scheme provides more focus on Gabbert.
2012 NFL Draft:
Jags' major needs: RT, WR, CB; Jags minor needs: P, Another WR, C (maybe), TE, LB
1.7. Riley Reiff, OT
*Due to a lack of experience and turnovers, Stephon Gilmore falls out of the 1st round. Jags trade 2013 1st rounder and Mike Thomas to the Colts for their second round pick.
Why would the Colts do this? There is so much talent between the 2nd and 3rd round, that they will feel that with the first picks of the 3rd and 4th round, they will still have a chance to get some guys pretty high up on their board. Getting what they may think should be a top-15 pick in 2013 is too much for them to turn down.
Why do we do this? Because I think having Stephon Gilmore this year is worth not having a 1st round pick next year. I rate him that high. I also don't think that we're going to be a top 15 pick in 2013.
2.33. Stephon Gilmore, CB
2..38. Alshon Jeffrey, WR (combine will be big in determining where he gets drafted...right now he's a 2nd rounder)
3. 71. Cam Johnson, DE (To complete the pass rush trio. This will be a scary defensive line)
4. 101. Michael Egnew, TE
5. Tank Carder, LB
*After drafting Reiff and signing Nicks, there's no place for Britten to go. If he's cleared by doctors and ready to play, I think it won't be too difficult to get a 5th round out of the Bears, who think they would do more for their line with a 5th round pick acquiring Britten than selecting someone.
5. Dwight Bentley, CB
6. Kirk Cousins, QB (nothing but a strong arm, but worth a look)
*The Browns, looking for a little more firepower, give up their 7th rounder for Zach Miller. Why? They remember what he did to them at the end of 2009. They are one of the few other teams to see what his potential is. They also have and extra 1st and 4th this year, so the 7th rounder is even more of a luxury pick.
7. Shaun Powell, P
Roster with my own personal rating out of 10 as compared to the rest of the league :
Offense 27:
Gabbert, Redman*, Cousins*
Mojo, Jennings, Harris, Owens
Jones, Bolen
Lewis, Egnew*, Cloherty
Monroe, Bradfield
Nicks*, Rackley
Meester, Estes
Nwarni, Haslam
Reiff*
Bowe*, Jeffrey*
Robinson*, ? (Roby, Price, Robiskie.....we brought a coach out of retirement for a reason)
Dillard, Shorts
Defense 23:
Williams*, Johnson*
Knighton, Mosley
Alualu, Dozable
Mathis*, Lane
Smith, Allen
Posluszny, Carder*
Coleman, Sessions (as it's usually one or the other on the field when healthy)
Cox, Mathis, Bentley*
Gilmore*, Middleton
Lowery, Trent
Landry, Prozinski
SPT 3
Scobee
Powell*
Cain
Grades: Star Players and [Potential/Impact Guys]
QB: 7.1: [Gabbert]
RB/FB: 9.8: MJD, Jones [Jennings]
OL: 9.2: Monroe, Nicks, Nwarni [Reiff, Meester]
WR: 8.7: Bowe [Robinson, Jeffrey]
TE: 8.2: [Lewis, Egnew]
DL: 9.7: Williams, Mathis, Knighton [Alualu, Johnson]
LB: 9: Smith, Posluszny [Session, Allen, Carder]
CB: 8.4 Cox [Gilmore, Coleman, Mathis, Bentley]
S: 8.3 [Lowery, Landry]
SPT: 9.1: Scobee, Owens, Middleton, Allen [Powell, Cain]
Again, I do not intend to defend the realistic possibility of this situation, as any Mock Draft is a shot in the dark and this one has a lot of trades that would have to happen. What I can say, is something like this is not impossible.
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Interesting to note:
If did happen, and even if it doesn’t….there could be fewer than 10 players that remain pre-Gene.
gene
will not trade a 1st rounder ever. I see him trading future 2nd round for 3rd round again.
Regardless of the 1st round pick they will get DE, CB, WR in the next 3 rounds.
by childintime12 on Feb 19, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
To say Gene will NEVER do anything
Is flawed logic. In fact, I believe this exact question was asked on vic after the cox trade. I’m pretty sure vic responded with something about how if Gene felt the player was worth a first round pick and he fell into the second round he’d trade for him if possible.
I’m pretty sure that’s what he was trying to do to get Sean Lee.
We can’t say a particular GM will do this or that for sure. We can speculate, but especially a guy with only 3 drafts? Is it unlikely for any team? Yes. Has Gene ever said or showed something that leads you to believe he wouldn’t?
Enough with these unrealistic mocks!!!!!!
As a die heart fan of the jacksonville jaguars from youngstown,oh I get real mad to see one of me fellow jag fans post just unreal stuff. I think thats one of the reason why our team is the laughing stock of the media today. Players think our team is a unattracted market because the media never has anything good to say about our team. I’m getting real tired of the media(espn,nfl network,ect…) of bashing our team and im getting tired of ours fans coming out with these silly mocks. So to all jags fans all around the world less start making more realistic possibilities please….
We're a media laughing stock because
Of mock drafts in a fan post section of a fan site? What?
We’re a joke because:
A. The fan base hasn’t ever reached a point of consistently supporting the team with ticket sales (though no blackouts since 2009 is a good step forward).
B. We haven’t won a playoff game in 5 years
C. We’ve never been to a superbowl
D. We have a national perception as the worst selling team in the league.
E. We’ve a diversity of star power since 1999.
F. Our longest tenured coach has a sub .500 rating
G. David Garrard has records on this team.
and finally….
H. The media needs a goat. The Bucs won a superbowl, the cardinals went to a superbowl, the lions got their head out of their ass, the patriots and colts became powerhouses and it’s not even funny to make fun of the Rams or Browns anymore. We’re an easy target.
In 2011, people were saying the same thing you’re saying now about drafting a Cam Newton or a Blaine Gabbert. Ryan Kerrigan was the realistic mock. Aldon Smith had a realistic chance of reaching us at 16. There’s no way we would have had a shot at Prince Amukamura at 16. Christian Ponder would surely be available at 16 (because he was a 2nd round label) and Daquan Bowers was a sure top 5, certainly not a guy we could have had with our 2nd round pick.
Somehow none of that happened. Here’s a fact, buddy, all Mock Drafts are unrealistic until the draft actually happens. Does that mean Mcshay and etc. are making a mockery of all of the NFL with their picks (which outside of the top 5 are usually completely off).
I’m sorry for providing you something semi-interesting to read for a few minutes. Next time I wont force you to read it with my telekinetic powers.
by Mr.Awesome on Feb 18, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Has to be one of the best responses I have ever seen on here...
I even read it out-loud to my coworkers, they were dying..
To be honest
not really a fan of this. WAY TOO UNREALISTIC for me.
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Couldn't agree more
But it’s fun to dream big! lol
Our team would be a playoff team as long as Gabbert plays well
but I just don’t see that much turnover this offseason. I also don’t think we have the money to get Nicks, Bowe, Williams, and Mathis. In FA I would prefer us to get Mathis, Manningham, another WR, and get a CB. Then we can draft a receiver, DE, and RT with the first three picks. I would prefer to trade down, but I like the first three picks, even though I really dont think Alshon will be there that late in the second.
Here's my logic on FA
Without Kampman, Britten, Thomas, Spitz, Roth, Osgood, etc., the other guys we’re letting leave and Shean Mathis (big drop off after new contract), we will relatively balance the pay increase on back loaded contracts and resigned players, with some leftover (lets say 5m)
Relatively speaking, that means all of the cap we have available with the roll over (I think Alfie said potentially 50m) could be available for FA.
Here’s the ball park cap numbers I’d expect:
Williams 16m
Bowe 10m
Mathis 6m
Nicks 6m
Robinson 4m
Redman 1m
Gonzo + Roby 1.5m
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44.5m.
Reiff 2m
Gilmore (only because he would probably be the 4th or 5th corner taken) 1.5m
Jeffrey 1.5m
Johnson 1m
All others = 1m
That’s about 52 million. With my extremely rough calculation, that would leave a 3m cushion in the case of injuries.
I could be way off, and if so you could be right.
-Also, I think Manningham will want more than he’s worth after the superbowl. I was keen to getting him prior to the superbowl, but that game gave his agent some firepower.
For a grand total of
Oh, and Jeffrey
WR is especially deep this year. There are guys like Stephen Hill that some may think is a 2nd rounder, but others suggest more of a 5th. I’ve seen some sites label Marvin Jones and TY Hilton and 2nd rounders.
With the depth of this WR class, if Jeffrey runs that slow I think he can fall pretty far into the middle of the 2nd or even further. After all the FA signings, his speed would be less of an issue for us.
We’ve made it work for Lewis, and Jeffrey may even take some of the pressure off of Lewis as our only endzone target – so for us it could be a great move.
Ok that could work.
I’m not the biggest fan of getting Nicks(although he’s a great player) because I dont see Gene drafting a first round RT. We may need to find one in FA like Bell. Plus, I don’t think we have a chance to land Mario. If we could,that would be amazing, but I don’t think he would be attracted to Jacksonville if other teams like the Patriots want him. That’s why I would rather sweep up second tier guys like last year for cheaper and get more bang for the buck. Anyways, I didnt think about getting the Colts second rounder when you said that. It’s essentially a first round pick. I wouldn’t mind doing that mostly because getting rid of Thomas means more cap space. If we get JEffrey though, I would like to see us grab TY Hilton in the fourth if he is there. With Bowe and Jeffrey, we would need a true speed guy and Hilton could give us that. Our team would definitely be a good team if all of this happened though.

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