San Francisco 49ers are the Template for the Jaguars in 2012
by Adam Stites on Feb 5, 2012 1:37 PM EST
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Had Kyle Williams not had the two of the biggest special teams disasters of the 2011 NFL season in the NFC Conference Championship, there's a good chance it would be the San Francisco 49ers getting ready to play the New England Patriots in a few hours. Their 13-3 season was the first winning season for the 49ers since Steve Mariucci was head coach, Garrison Hearst was the leading rusher and Terrell Owens was the leading receivers in 2002.
Yet they did so with a former first overall selection at quarterback, Alex Smith, who was widely, if not unanimously, considered a bust entering the 2011 season. They won 13 games with the 26th ranked offense and a passing offense that didn't ask for their limited quarterback to do too much.
Jim Harbaugh set up a template for success that the Jaguars can and should follow for the 2012 season.
The 49ers were very successful in two keys aspects during the 2012 season. Their defense stayed very healthy through the year and finished in the top five in both points and yards allowed. The Jaguars defense, which was absolutely shredded by injuries, finished 6th in yards allowed and 11th in points allowed.
Had the Jaguars defense remained healthy it's very feasible that they could've played at a top five level which was certainly evidenced by their Monday Night Football performance against the Baltimore Ravens in week seven. If the defense can stay healthy in 2012, there's no reason to believe that the Jaguars defense wouldn't be able to play at the level of the 2011 49ers.
The other important thing that the 49ers did in 2011 was win the turnover margin. And they did so handily. The 49ers defense forced a league-leading 38 turnovers and the offense had a league-fewest 10 turnovers. That's right, they were the NFL's best team at both forcing turnovers and avoiding them.
So while their offense was averaged at best, their efficiency and emphasis on ball control allowed them capitalize on the biggest moments in games and ultimately have a very successful season.
While I still have plenty of hope that Blaine Gabbert will have success with the Jaguars, and I believe it is far too early to say he won't, an emphasis on efficiency could be exactly what the young quarterback needs to bounce back from a rough rookie season.
The formula was laid out by Harbaugh in his first season with the 49ers, now it's up for Mike Mularkey to take the reigns of the Jaguars in his first season and follow it.
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So basically, the only difference between the Jaguars and the 49ers is that our offense was the worst in the league and our defense isn’t quite as good.
So… there’s that.
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San Francisco in 2010:
24th in O
16th in D
Jags in 2011:
27th in O
11th in D
San Francisco in 2011:
10th in O
2nd in D
Jags in 2012?
top ten in O and D?
The fact is, SF had essentially the same personnel in 2010 as it had in 2011. If Mularkey can elicit the same change that Harbaugh was able to, we could be looking at a huge positive upswing (especially depending on FA acquisitions/draft picks).
Jags were 6th in Defense in 2011
Not sure where you got your stats.
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You’re a freaking train wreck dude…
The 49rs did have a special season but I don't think it can be replicated here in Jacksonville
There are many differences. The first being that we have a much tougher schedule. Secondly our QB hasn’t been in league for 6 years and still has a lot to learn. While it would be nice to think that we are going 13-3 next year, we probably won’t.
tougher schedule?
Our division was weak this year as Houston coasted in on fumes with their injuries.
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The defense when healthy is top 3...
…so say top 3 defense, top 3 rushing attack, and say 16th passing attack. That’s a super bowl run.
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The major difference between our teams will be at QB
Alex Smith will always be limited in a way Gabbert won’t. There is no physical limitation e.g. short and weak arm that would stop him from being ten times better then Alex Smith.
Next year I obviously don’t expect Gabbert to lead us to a top 5 passing offense, but I certainly think we can be better than the 49ers 29th ranked passing offense.
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by duuuvaaalll on Feb 5, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
I think Gabbert has what it takes to be really good. Also, I am banking on us being much better at wide receiver than the 49ers were. If we enter next season with a receiving core inferior to the 2011 49ers receivers then I think we have a problem.
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just realized because the jerseys will be changed in 2013, I’m not going to get a new jersey this season. :/ Which I originally planned to do.
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by rhettchrystal on Feb 5, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
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by rhettchrystal on Feb 5, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
its on topic
jaguars.
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by rhettchrystal on Feb 5, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I was planning on doing the same as you...
Then I said “eff it, I’ll just buy a new jersey this year AND next year.”
I'll just wait...
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by rhettchrystal on Feb 5, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
First your great
but I’m in the same boat i was gonna get the new jersey this year as well.but i guess now i can afford the ticket package to watch the games legit.and not on some bootleg site.haha
Good points. Let's hope it works out this way!
Also, I am rec’ing this piece because you were able to slip in a Garrison Hearst reference. Love that guy!
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I've lived in SF for 3 years now
And I hated watching the Niners over the last couple years because I’d already had my fill of watching a mediocre, run-first team with inept play at QB, from watching the Jaguars. This past year during their playoff run, I was sitting there saying the Niners are EXACTLY what the Jags strive to be. Who knows, new coach, a few more pieces, improvement from Gabbert, and weak division, maybe we make a run next year.
im in sf also...
and I’ve noticed that niner fans are some the worst I’ve meet.they are moving to santa clara and no one cared until they were winning.and most said they weren’t gonna watch the super bowl cause they aren’t in it.
Apples and oranges.
We need our own identity to be better. Hope that Gabbert improvrs and hope that some more weapons are added.
by JagSoldier on Feb 5, 2012 3:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Template is a broad enough word that you are nto wrong
the 2010 49ers and 2011 Jaguars are very different teams and so I am not really sure that the Jaguars can expect a similar result.
HOWEVER, the Jaguars should look to the 49ers as a template in the ways mentioned, although the QB situations are way too different to really say Gabbert should look to Alex Smith as a template for his sophomore season.
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people need to realize that SF upgraded their secondary through free agency
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Rogers and Whitner did come in through FA. Goldson was already a 49er and the rest were already there or rookies.
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Rogers and Whitner are pretty significant upgrades
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yeah
this post was more of me telling myself you were right. lol
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Another big reason
going 1-13 on third down didn’t help.I think they are the same as the jets were the past couple of years.When Blaine figures it out we will be better then the niners.
It's not as simple as that
For one, the 49ers should’ve been force this season. Do you know how truly talented that team is and how many (high) first round picks they have playing big roles?
Here’s some of their top picks, all drafted in the first round:
-Pat Willis (best LB in the game)
-Vernon Davis (one of the best TEs in the game)
-Joe Staley, Mike Iupati, and Anthony Davis are 3 1st round starters on the O-line alone
-Aldon Smith could’ve been DROY
-Say what you want abou Alex Smith but he was good enough to make plays
And that’s just the first rounders, not including gems like Frank Gore and Navarro Bowman. So yea, they should’ve been beastin’
shoulda been but something was missing in '10
Perhaps a coach who was a maniac getting fired helped out.
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fine
-QB taken in the top 10
-best RB in the game
-one of the better overall TEs if playing at his best
-top 5 4-3 OLB in the NFL
-2 first round tackles(one went in the second but was widely considered first round talent)
-solid late round draft picks at DT and CB
-top 10 defense as a whole in 2011
Pretty similar, and a lot simpler than you want to make it according to your model.
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You're forgetting the talent part... comparisons in terms of talent, i.e. better player(s)
QB: Jags<9ers
RB:Jags>9ers
TE: Jags<9ers
LBs: Jags<9ers
OLine: Jags<9ers
Defense as whole:Jags<9ers
I’ll give you knighton and a pass on cox, who I think is just OK.
So yeah, not similar at all. Is just a better team overall, and has been for years
QB: Jags<9ers
says who?
TE: Jags<9ersdebatable. As a pure receiving and mismatch level, I agree, but as an all around TE, absolutely wrong
you also neglected to make the taletn argument in the original post. I basically went point for point showing that the original argument you made almost exactly applied to the Jaguars.
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C'mon seriously?
Are we going to debate if Alex Smith is worse than Blaine Gabbert? I love the Jags and hope BG turns into a superstar, but that’s not debatable right now.
You’re also not giving credit to Veronon Davis’s blocking ability, which has steadliy improved since his rookie year. And people like to commend Marcedes blocking ability, in spite of his terrible season catching the ball this year, but he also struggled in blocking as well. That’s not even close for a debate. Please don’t compare probably the best all-around TE to a guy coming off his worst season in 4 years, after we cut him nice check to boot
by BASE_D_JAGSS on Feb 7, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
1)Please give specifics to indicate Gabbert cannot be as good or better than Alex Smith
2)You are letting one season cloud your opinion of Lewis. Just one year ago he was in talks of being one of the best TEs in the game along with Vernon Davis. Whether he is actually better is irrelevant, because if Lewis performs like he did in 2010, the impact he could have on this offense would be of a similar magnitude to Davis’ on the 49ers offense.
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I think he was saying
like right now as we speak Alex Smith is better than BG or else he would have said something like:
“Jags < 9ers but if BG lives up to the potential that people say he has Jags >= 9ers a couple years from now”
This post is a product of my humble opinion. If you disagree, simply reply with a counter argument, not a personal attack.
and how did i neglect the talent argument in the orginial post
please check the very first sentence of the post…
by BASE_D_JAGSS on Feb 7, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
well i might have misinterperted the line at first
but the fact of the matter is that while the talent might be a little better on the niners, you still can look at their team, make the comparisons I made and see that the Niners are not all that terrible of a team to look at for the path to success.
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