2012 NFL Mock Draft: Who do the Jaguars take?
by Alfie Crow on Feb 6, 2012 4:00 PM EST
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PrintIt's the Monday after Super Bowl XLVI, so that means we're due for another fresh 2012 NFL Mock Draft from SB Nation. The Jacksonville Jaguars picks in mock drafts have been all over the place, from offensive lineman to cornerbacks to wide receivers. This next pick done by Ryan Van Bibber is a pick I like, but I'm not sure if it's a selection the Jaguars will pull the trigger on. What happens in free agency however will obviously have a big impact on who the Jaguars draft.
Hit the jump to see who the Jaguars pick.
7. Jacksonville Jaguars, Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina
Jacksonville has a long list of needs. Pass rushers are always at a premium, and Coples is a better pick here than Dre Kirkpatrick or any other receiver. Fans should be occupying that behemoth of a stadium to demand that the team re-sign Jeremy Mincey, which would make for a fearsome pairing along their defensive front.
The pick didn't change from Van Bibber's last mock draft and we're seeing this pick being slotted to the Jaguars more and more. I really do think it's going to come down to either Coples, an offensive lineman, or a cornerback.
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I approve.
Best mock I’ve seen yet, by far. All these experts who are mocking Brockers and Adams in the mid/late 20s are dreaming.
This could happen
Eespecially if the Jags sign Colston/Bowe/S. Johnson as the #1 WR and then maybe Wayne/Manningham/Meachem as #2 WR.
Whoever they sign in free agency will surely have an impact on who they draft.
I hope Manningham's performance in the Superbowl doesn't inflate his asking price
and although I like him I think we definitely need a #1 because I think he performs better when he has help (someone to draw more attention away from him)
by Jags85 on Feb 6, 2012 4:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure if anyone who has injury problems AND averages 43 yards per game played (and only 3 catches per game) can have an inflated view of self
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(shrug)...good point. He'll want big money...smh...and hopefully no one is dumb enough to give it to him...
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Remember David Tyree?
Cut the next year…lol
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your opinion
http://rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/39842/60/mock-draft-10-blackmon-falls
in this draft Coples and Claiborne are there at 7 (unrealistic but suppose it happens this way) who do you take?
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Claiborne
Best off man corner in the past few years.
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I think it is
just wanted to get people’s opinions
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assuming things stay the same, I'd still go Kirkpatrick but would not be upset if Coples was the pick
But, I could really see New England trying to move up to 7 and maybe taking Kirkpatrick. 27 and 31 for 7?
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kinda funny
but that is usually the case since they trade down. Trading up and they will have too surrender a bunch of picks(which they can afford to do). Not sure how the Jags would lose on that one if they deem the picks to be worth more than any player they could take with the pick.
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Trading down isn’t always good. Sometimes it’s better to just take a player where you’re at than being at the mercy of the other picks before you.
not saying it is
but it is feasible that the Jags could very well benefit from a trade down even if it mans trading with NE
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did I say New England? I meant Cincy.
As soon as I hit post I was like, man, New England always gets over.
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I have a feeling they would rather keep the 2 picks and use one on Janoris Jenkins who could be there with their first pick
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Alfie, isn't the Jags 7th pick valued at 1500?
Please compute for us what the Pat’s would have to give up to move up to the 7th pick. Or, for that matter Philly, Cincinnati, or Cleveland.
-for the pats, both first(27,31) and their second is like 1556
-for philly ther first and second cmes to 1490
-for cincy their first(17 and 21) comes to 1750. Closest I get is Jags throw theeir first and second and thirs(2255) and get the bengals firsts and second and 4th (2180)
-for clevleand, they have 4 so not sure how bad they also want 7. HOWEVER, if they trade atlanta’s first (22) and their second and 3rd it is 1560
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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 6, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like Coples
Would be happy to have him at 7 i see if he does what what hes capable of think JPP type of potential if it goes bad we saw that before in havrey and im not talking steve
Jaguars 2012 NFL Mock Draft ... IMO
1st – If not Coples or Kirkpatrick, then DeCastro – OG
2nd – Leonard Johnson – CB
3rd – Brandon Mosley – OT
4th – Michael Brewster – C
5th – Michael Egnew – TE
6th – Ryan Miller – OG
7th – Drew Butler – P
comedic
to say the least. Bewster in the 4th is quite unrealistic and no WR is also a bit unrealistic.
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And IF...IF we take a Guard at #7 (Highly unlikely)
I HIGHLY doubt they take a tackle also in the 3rd
by Jags85 on Feb 6, 2012 6:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Eben Britton, Bradfield, Haslam, Baldridge
All guys that just need more experience that have a ton of upside and talent
by Jags85 on Feb 6, 2012 7:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And Britton just needs to stay healthy
by Jags85 on Feb 6, 2012 7:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You said "You would rather keep Guy Whimper?"
What does a Guard have to do with a Tackle
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Sigh! It was a question directed at Jags85.
Not a statement that I want to keep Whiffer .. I mean Whimper. That is why I chose to draft a OT ( Brandon Mosley) in the 3rd round
It had better not be DeCastro
And I mean better! lol
Ever hear of free agency?
There isn’t a WR worth a pick in the draft!
Hmmmm
I thought dallas drafted jimmy smith?
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by JaxBlaster on Feb 6, 2012 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Considering our track record drafting DE's & WR's
Let us try the free agent market … we seem to fair better there.
Do you recall the receivers we have signed in free agency in the last decade that have been successful?
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Jimmy Smith wasn't acquired in the last 10 years... try 1995
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
no that's just when he was signed to the jaguars
he obviously played many elite years after 95
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
never said we did. more reason to draft blackmon correct?
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I seem to think what?
All i was doing was mearly pointig out to you that we didnt draft jimmy smith, hmm didnt know i said anything otherthen that but ok!
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are you kidding me
one of the deepest WR classes in recent history and none are worthy of being picked. that reall is funny.
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wrong yet again
deep as is talent.
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Really?!
At what, returning punts and kick offs?
In the entire draft? seriously? the whole draft?
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Look at the WR talent available in Free Agency!
We only need two WR’s. But, we need CB, DE, and O’ line depth.
i hope blackmon or claiborne will be available when we select
if not coples is a good pick
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gonna say it again
Blackmon is NOT worth the #7 pick. Even if he is there he better not be the pick.
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ok gonna say it again.. I disagree. Blackmon IS worth the #7 pick
I hope we get lucky enough for him to fall to us. I think he is very similar to Mr. AJ Green.
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
yeah he is similar to AJ Green
minus the elite size and the elite speed.
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haha he weighs more than AJ right now... and only 2 inches shorter
what are there 40 times sir? You seem to know.
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
everybody thinks blackmon is slow
i will laugh my ass off if he runs a 4.45 40 to shut everybody up. hes even faster with pads on so i agree with you pocket herc i have no idea why people think he isnt worth a top 7 pick
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Seriously 121 receptions and 18 TD's in the Big 12 this year. Not to shabby
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Just kidding about the hour glass
My point was that he will not be available at 7.
1) 2 inches can be a huge deal. 6’1 vs 5’11 makes a big difference in a WR or CB. So too the 3 inch difference between 6’1 and 6’4 is a big deal.
2) not quite sure the 8 pounds matter much, but how is extra weight a good thing in a case like this?
3)AJ Green ran a 4.48 which is quite solid for a 6’4 WR. Blackmon is projected to likely run in the 4.5s which is not spectacular when looking at taking a WR #7 who is only 6’1 and lacking that really elite size.
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aj green ran a 4.5
last time i checked that isnt elite and hes 6’4 207. doesnt really strike me as “elite”
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4.48 for a guy who is 6'4 is quite good
sure it is not Calvin Johnson, and frankly I do not think AJ Green is the elite specimen WR worthy of such a high pick.
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it doesn't matter if you think he is an elite specimen he just had a killer year
why does he need to be an elite specimen anymore if he is a prove commodity?
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
you need to get value
and a WR who is not an elite specmen is not going to present better value than a lot of other players such as an elite specimen at DE(coples) and SUPERB talents at OT(Reiff and Martin) and a CB who possess elite size and very good speed(Kirkpatrick)
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ok coples is not an elite player
you can make the same argument for coples as you do for blackmon
blackmon isnt going to be larry, calvin or andre so we shouldnt draft him that high
coples isnt going to be mario williams, julius peppers or Terrrel suggs so we shouldnt draft him that high.
see what i did there^ same thing
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by Jaggaholic82 on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
valid
except for the fact that you are totally wrong.
Suppose you pass on blackmon and take coples. it is not going to be as hard to replace blackmon’s production and skills with a later round guy than it would be if you took blackmon and are looking to find a guy in a later round to give you the production coples would have given.
I also disagree with the argument Coples cannot be elite. In him I see many similarities to Justin Smith, who IS an elite player. Sure he does not rack up 20 sacks a year, but he is an elite DE in that he can get the pressure on the QB, rack up around 10 sacks a year and is a pretty insane run defender. THAT is elite, and I think Coples can become that at the next level.
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so youre saying its easier to find a good WR in the later rounds
than a DE. and basically any other position?
and justin smith is not even comparible to coples, coples will not even be half the player JS is its like comparing Blackmon to Calvin johson, he might be really good but he’ll never be on that level.
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essentially
I am saying that WR is probably the easiest position to hit on in later rounds, and frankly that takes value away from early round WRs. Unless you are an elite prospect, the likes of megatron and Fitz, your value sin not going to be top 10. That is basically what I am saying.
As for Coples, I totally disagree. Similar size and skillset makes me think that Coples could become quite similar to Justin Smith assuming he works hard and devotes himself to the game. In some ways, I think that Coples might actually be better then JS in the pass rush aspect of his game. As a whole, I doubt Coples can be as good, but I think the comparison is there. Similar to comparing Luck to Peyton. Doubt Luck can be as good, but the similarities are there to make the comparison.
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well i looked it up
atleast for just this year and i used PFF so it took away any bias by my part
i looked at the top 25 wr and DE, and added two onto each position that were outside the top 25 but are big names.
and out of those
12 receivers were drafted in the 4th round or later
and 13 DE were drafted in the 4th round or later
so thats not actually an accurate statement.
and as far as coples. he might have the skillset but that doesnt mean he will be a good player. JS doesnt have a great skillset but is a beast, Larry fitzgerald isnt a freak athlete but hes a beast. skillset isnt everything when it comes to a player there are alot of other variables
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one season is way too small a sample size to really make a conclusive statement
also, are you accounting for 3-4 OLBs which are essentially DEs?
I am sure you massage the numbers and you prove me wrong, but the fact of the matter is that historically, WR can be found easier in the later rounds.
As for Smith-Coples, sure skillset is not everything, but at a certain point you can see enough similarities to the point that a comparison might not be far off. I am sure you can make any NFL comparison and I cannot be so picky as to say each and every comparison is bad. measurables and skill set are good things to look at when considering comparisons to make.
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i literrally didnt change the numbers
im not that big of a douche
and ur right so lets look back to the 2008 season
out of the top 25 players according to PFF that played 50%of their teams snaps
this is how many of them were late round picks(after the 3rd)
2008-WR-10 DE-9
2009-WR-7 DE-8
2010-WR-8 DE-12
so you can see that thats a false statement
also some guys you probably didnt know were late round picks
-Robert mathis
-Trent cole
-Jared Allen
and as far as comparison our opinions are just that opinions so ill just leave that one alone. but i will say that i think coples would be a great 3-4 end but i dont see him being a great 4-3 end.
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oo boy
is ounded bad by leaving out the word can. I meant to say one could theoretically massage numbers to prove a point.
A few more point:
1)the numbers are too close to say I am wrong. i also feel like you are looking at it all wrong.and are performing a statistical analysis that is not going to lead to the right conclusion due to more volatility in the production of WRs and smaller gaps in production between WRs. By that I mean WR #25 could be #26 the following year and #10 the year after. So you can end up getting late round guys who are consistently putting up great years but fall to #26 or #27. With DEs, that is less likely going to happen. The top producers are in a class of their own and more than likely will year in and year out will show up on the top 25.
2)I knew all 3 DEs were later round picks
3)Hard to argue Coples would not be a phenomenal 3-4 DE. I DO think he can be an excellent DE in a 4-3 as well.
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I dont know if you can really say that quality of play differs that much, production might but a guy could still catch a high percentage of balls thrown his way and block well even if he isnt getting passes thrown his way, same with DE you can get pressures and stop the run well without racking up sacks, and thats what those rankings are based on thats why i used them
so to me that point might be valid to an extent but the overall trend would show the true numbers.
and youre right i cant say you are wrong but i can say you arent right when you say that good receivers are far in a way an easier commodity to pick up late in the draft
im just trying to say you cant discount a player because of a perceived norm(getting a wr in late round is easy) because its obvious it isnt.relative atleast recently to another highly sought after position, DE
and we will disagree on the last point, i see him better fit in a 3-4 system. where he could be a top 5-7 player in the nfl at that position but probably barely top 20 as far as DE in a 4-3. but we will see
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by Jaggaholic82 on Feb 7, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
By your measure ...
Wes welker will never make it in the NFL!
what has he done without Brady?
and when was he drafted?
The answers if you did not know are nothing and he was not even drafted.
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he was actually a good receiver for miami
so you are completely wrong in that regard
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by Jaggaholic82 on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
1100 yards across 3 seasons(f2 actually playing)
not spectacular, except for the fact that he went undrafted.
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fine
but once again, he is undrafted, not a first round player.
The point that you are making about not having elite size does not apply to a player you do not anticipate becoming elite given hw high you drafted him.
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what im trying to get across is size and speed shouldnt be a deal breaker
if the guy can ball he can ball and i dont think anybody(even you) doubts that blackmon is a good football player. you take a player that can play
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ok
i do not disagree but lack of size and speed lowers draft stock to the point that a WR without elite size and/or speed is not going to be worth a top 10 selection.
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jimmy smith is the exact same size as blackmon
if you went back in time im pretty sure most teams would take him in the top 10. if a guy plays like a top ten talent size and speed shouldnt matter if both are adequate, and both are
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by Jaggaholic82 on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
i also think 4.48 would be good for a 6'2 215 receiver
and i bet he runs faster than that. How is a big strong body not good to have as a receiver? Even if he is a young Anquan Boldin he is worth the pick.
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
4.48 is a bit on the optimistic side from what I gather
expect something more along the lines of 4.55
Couple that with a 6’1 215 pound body and I am not really sure what about him yells "worthy of the 7th pick.
Hold on a second – Now I know you are clearly joking if you think a young Boldin is worth spending the 7th pick of the draft on. You want to get an elite player or a TOP talent so early and Boldin does not classify as that.
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No I'm not joking hold on a second and be realistic
What are your expectations? Cause we have selected derrick harvey, Eugene monroe, tyson alualu, and blaine gabbert all inside the top ten as of late and you wouldnt be happy with a receiver that has all the tools to be Anquan boldin at the minimum?? A young Boldin had 5 1000+ receiving yard seasons in his first 7… and he missed games. So i guess I don’t understand how that wouldn’t be worth the number 7 pick
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 7, 2012 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
this entire post represents the issue with so many jaguar fans
stop settling for mediocrity. Boldin is a good WR but he represents mediocrity if considered as a WR to be taken at #7. If you have such a high pick you want a WR to give you better production.
You also need to consider a couple of more things:
1)Larry Fitzgerald in many ways helped out Boldin put up better numbers
2)When not on the same team as Fitzgerald, Boldin has been “alright”- 1300 yards in his rookie year and 800-900 yards per year in Baltimore. Once again, not bad, but not the production you rely on when spending the 7th overall pick on a guy.
3)Boldin was a second round pick, and given the depth of the draft at the WR position, there is little reason to think a guy drafted in round 2, or even perhaps 3 could give you Boldin-like production across a career.
It is not that I dislike Blackmon as a prospect, but the fact of the matter is that he just does not present anything that can remotely be considered good value at the pick. Yes, it does suck that the #1 WR in the draft does not fit value for this team, but those are the breaks of the game. If the Jaguars can trade down past pick #15, Blackmon would be gone, but in that situation, he would likely present solid value with the pick.
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you think the importance of the post has to do what anquan has done on the field?
there is no reason to argue what Boldin has done on the field, where he was picked, and what 40 time he ran. Like I Previously said he would be an Aquan Boldin at the bare MINIMUM.
My point is the Jags haven’t had a successful top ten pick in some time now and you wanna argue value value value where is the value in our last 4 first round picks sir? It seems your suggesting that a WR doesn’t have top ten value unless he is Calvin Johnson. Cause you wouldn’t select AJ Green in the top ten either.
You say OL in the draft have superb talent and thats why they represent value. Blackmon doesn’t have superb talent?
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
It seems your suggesting that a WR doesn’t have top ten value unless he is Calvin Johnson
That is pretty much it. WR is a position that can much easier be found in later rounds. Look around the league and some of the top WRs are late round guys. You will not find that to be the case with other positions like OT and DE. You can quicker replace production lost from passing on a first round WR than replace production lost from passing on a first round DE or OT or even perhaps CB.
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I agree with what your saying in regards to WR DE and OL in the first round
And now i understand your viewpoint on WR’s in the top ten. I just think the jags as an organization tend to over think the pick with things that are not important in comparison to getting the best player on the field. I know that it’s easy to say now but I was also saying we should pick JPP in 2010 regardless on how raw he is and in my opinion selecting tyson was over thinking the pick
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
boldin ran a 4.7
that is a completely wrong comparison. blodin is SLOW
blackmon is NOT hes just not SUPER fast
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by Jaggaholic82 on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
super fast
………as in 4.5 40 time?!! That is just fast. 4.35 or below is super fast
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he has above average speed
thats the point i was trying to make
he will run a 4.5 which is fast and not a 4.35 which is super fast
boldin on the other hand ran a 4.7 which is slow
so it isnt a fair comparison
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i missed the word not in "not super fast"
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Considering our track record drafting DE's & WR's
Let us try the free agent market … we seem to fair better there.
you cant draft scared that wont get you anywhere
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by Pocket Hercules on Feb 6, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
If Blackmon is gone by our pick..I wouldnt mind taking Couples
and then picking a WR in 2nd round, and taking 1-2 in free agency. But one of those free agents have to be either Bowe/VJAX/S.Johnson/Colston.
i actually think were in a pretty good spot to either pick here or trade back.
Gene smith left us with two shockers in the last two drafts. I say trade back and get more picks i mean obviously if Justin Blackmon is here we have to rush that card to the podium like we did in 03 but he wont be so we should trade back and get more picks. Plus this is the most talented WR class in years we should be able to find a good one to add to the couple we get in free agency.
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