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Please Don't Let This Happen Again

Last year during the lockout there was one player that the Jaguars and the fans thought was guaranteed to be back and that was punter Adam Podlesh. But Podlesh didn't come back, he felt like the Jags didn't want him so he signed with the Bears for 5 years and $10 million. So since the Jags had a huge hole at the punter position they went out and signed Matt Turk for $2 million and a little more then $600 guaranteed. I'm not going to get into that they basically paid Turk what the Bears paid Podlesh for one year since it was more of he didn't feel wanted and it wasn't a money issue(that we know of). But the point I'm trying to make is please don't let this happen again. This year one of the best kickers in the is a free agent. Jaguars own Josh Scobee is a free agent. So Jaguars please don't assume that Scobee will resign. Please make him feel like he's your most wanted player. Please don't let this happen again.

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I hope....

the Jags realize the importance of Josh, and I believe they do. As the team gets back to being a bit more competitive, having a guy that is as close to a sure thing as you can get standing there ready to add 3 points to your score at any given time is pretty valuable. The whole Podlesh thing seems weird, but I do remember looking at the numbers for Turk and Podlesh and prior to the season, and they similar. We soon found out that Turk was no Podlesh, but maybe since Josh wanted the $2 million per year, the Jags thought they could go get a good kicker at any point for that money. Who knows, but I agree, lets not let it happen again.

by GAJAGFAN on Feb 8, 2012 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

Just wrote an article on that same subject....we most definitely can't let this guy go. More-so we have to find a legitimate replacement for Podlesh also...

"Sad fact about our generation: Most ppl would rather hear "you look good" than "you are good". We spend thousands a year on cars, clothes, & cosmetics; Forget that. I can give you a Bible for free. Save money, save your soul. Get right with the Savior, Jesus Christ."- Travis D. Holmes

by T.Holmes on Feb 8, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember when Coughlin famously said "no kicker is worth a million a year"

and let Hollis walk? Ugh.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

+1 Lol Couglin said a lot that didn't make sense...but he grew up as a coach these past few years apparently.

"Sad fact about our generation: Most ppl would rather hear "you look good" than "you are good". We spend thousands a year on cars, clothes, & cosmetics; Forget that. I can give you a Bible for free. Save money, save your soul. Get right with the Savior, Jesus Christ."- Travis D. Holmes

by T.Holmes on Feb 8, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

no one ever questioned him with the x's and o's

Coaching is an emotion based business. As a GM you need to have a plan and stick to it, only deviating when absolutely necessary.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

What are you talking about with regards to their contracts

The Bears paid Podlesh $4.5M in 2011. A far cry from the $600K that Turk was guaranteed.

Five-year, $10 million contract.
The deal included a $2 million signing bonus and first-year roster bonus of $1.5 million.
2011: $1 million,
2012: $1 million (+ $250,000 roster bonus),
2013: $1.3 million,
2014: $1.4 million,
2015: $1.45 million

$2M + $1.5M + $1M = $4.5M in 2011.

by pksiv on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

'I've been thinkin the same thing.

top 5 kicker in this league, i think people forget it was him that made that 57 yard field goal for us to finnaly beat the colts. Lock him up, id be sick to see him kicking game winners for another team.

by jager-lota on Feb 8, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Scobee is a powerful weapon

Has a powerful leg and has finally started to get good accuracy in the last few years. With Mathis’s contract coming off the books and the insane cap room we already have (35+ million I think), I think we can afford to pay Scobee a quality contract. Based on other kicker salaries, I think Scobee will get about what Ryan Lindell just signed for (4 years, 11m) give or take a little.

by kterr on Feb 8, 2012 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

Not according to the latest reports

Our current cap room is somehow only around $13M until cuts or restructuring gets done.

by pksiv on Feb 8, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Scobee was ONE of ONLY two bright spots, offensively speaking, and is CLUTCH

For what ever reason Scooby doo is ALWAYS passed up by the moron talking heads when regarding the leagues Best kickers…even after his long field goals to win games…remember the Baltimore game? He wasn’t even credited for that win…you know was? "The Baltimore Ravens beat THEMSELVES…um no…our D, MJD, and oh by the way, ALL FG’s by Scobee. Scobee is one of our best weapons…not only on FG’s but also on Touchbacks. Pay the man!

by Jags85 on Feb 8, 2012 12:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 LOL

"Sad fact about our generation: Most ppl would rather hear "you look good" than "you are good". We spend thousands a year on cars, clothes, & cosmetics; Forget that. I can give you a Bible for free. Save money, save your soul. Get right with the Savior, Jesus Christ."- Travis D. Holmes

by T.Holmes on Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually heard

from a very reliable source that they’re going to let him walk. The quote was that “Khan looks at players like he looks at bumpers, they’re commodities, and Scobee is too expensive”.

I really hope this isn’t the case, just relaying what I heard.

by jlana24 on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

No way that's true.

"Sad fact about our generation: Most ppl would rather hear "you look good" than "you are good". We spend thousands a year on cars, clothes, & cosmetics; Forget that. I can give you a Bible for free. Save money, save your soul. Get right with the Savior, Jesus Christ."- Travis D. Holmes

by T.Holmes on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that's a silly statement "looks at players like bumpers"

Does Snyder look at players like websites? Paul Allen looks at players like iPhones?

Truth is, no one knows what Khan will do until he does it. Remember how he was a private man who would have his PR folks do the talking for him? Hardly.

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by Joe Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

How is that a silly statement?

I’m not saying that they’re bumpers, but commodities. There’s no emotion involved. It’s manufacturing a product for the cheapest possible price without diluting quality, to ensure that the most value is created. You think there’s any emotion involved with the Patriots personel decisions? It’s Moneyball. Does a kicker provide enough value over the season to warrant a million dollar salary (or whatever Scobee will be asking for)? And that’s the bottom line.

Personally do I think Scobee’s worth it? Yes. But that’s because I value his intangible assets (popular in the community, clutch factor) than ownership possibly could.

by jlana24 on Feb 8, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

If they do that

Then i have to believe we do have the right man making the calls. This game comns down to field goals so much, and i can safely say were not going to get anybody like him around here for a long time. Im goin to really be pissed off if this is true.

by jager-lota on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

who the hell are you talking about.

get a life this is just a blog. and i dont know who the hell your talking about fantasy football expert wrong guy buddy.

by jager-lota on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

I wasn't talking about you, chief...

I’m talking about the author of this article, “arawls”, because it’s really bad writing—to the point where it’s hard to even follow. As far as the fantasy football expert reference, there was a contributing “writer” who used to post these ridiculously obvious, yet, barely coherent articles for fantasy football match ups

by grues0809 on Feb 8, 2012 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

Well I'm the Fantasy Football Expert now...lol...be easy on me! :)

"Sad fact about our generation: Most ppl would rather hear "you look good" than "you are good". We spend thousands a year on cars, clothes, & cosmetics; Forget that. I can give you a Bible for free. Save money, save your soul. Get right with the Savior, Jesus Christ."- Travis D. Holmes

by T.Holmes on Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ho good was Podlesh anyway

He didnt have great number for CHI and Nick Harris was just as good. Turk was the big mistake they should have had harris the entire season.

by childintime12 on Feb 8, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

There is a mentality in the league that kickers are "a dime a dozen"!

They are considered interchangeable and not much value is put on them. However, in our case Josh Scobee has been one of our biggest weapons. He has accounted for more wins the past two seasons than our WRs. He’s clutch and he has superior range compared to most kickers. He’ also very hard to rattle and has tremendous confidence.

Sure, guys can be accurate, some have strong legs, some never seem to lose their cool in stressful situations but, Scobee has it all and we would stupid to let him go.

SIGN JOSH SCOBEE!!!!!!

by TCJagsFan on Feb 8, 2012 2:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Podlesh and Scobee have one thing in common

they both do a form a kicking the ball, thats where the importance and comparisons should end.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

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